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    So what's the point of weekly lockouts again?

    Right out of the Gate: The weekly Lockouts should be removed.
    I understand why they were set in place in the first place but with things like the diadem they just don't make any sense anymore. You can get like a full i210set in a week if you're really hardcore and a bit lucky while you need MONTHS! to equip fully through Alexander Savage while that content is way harder.

    After our first Try in Diadem while we didn't even knew what we were doing we already got a 210piece and we wasted a LOT of time exploring and when you get more experienced you can get that number up significantly, I'm sure.

    I didn't even clear Alexander Savage fully by now and think this isn't right (to be clear I like the Diadem and it's drops but SE should just remove weekly lockouts.... if we can get gear that fast already, let us choose how we get it and put some interesting stats on it other than our typical secondaries)

    How do oyu think about this situation?
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    Its only there so people don't finish all the content in a patch in a week then quit. But yea with the new Diadem place you can deck out in all 210 if lucky in a few weeks lol.
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    Maybe if they change the drop system in weekly raids a bit, so they can bring it without a lockout.
    Like reducing gear in chests down to 5% chance and add dark matter 6 to the chests with 95% chance.

    weekly lockout or RNG (like Diadem), choose your poison.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-12-2015 at 10:01 PM.

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    Diadem is a new expensive feature and they tried hard to make it popular, or it'd die again in 2 weeks like old choco races. How could they achieve that? Only with i210 gear which is not weekly locked (or people would not spam it after the first drop). That said, Void Ark weelky lockout makes no sense now indeed, it drops trash comparing to Diadem and I will run it only for i210 upgrade item once a week (assuming I'll not upgrade every eso piece I have with Hunts before that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Diadem is a new expensive feature and they tried hard to make it popular, or it'd die again in 2 weeks like old choco races. How could they achieve that? Only with i210 gear which is not weekly locked (or people would not spam it after the first drop). That said, Void Ark weelky lockout makes no sense now indeed, it drops trash comparing to Diadem and I will run it only for i210 upgrade item once a week (assuming I'll not upgrade every eso piece I have with Hunts before that).
    Right. Instead, people will farm Diadem for a week, be full i210, wonder why they'd do anything else because the rewards suck in comparison, and unsub.

    That sounds like a much better option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Right. Instead, people will farm Diadem for a week, be full i210, wonder why they'd do anything else because the rewards suck in comparison, and unsub.

    That sounds like a much better option.
    You know what was the real sub killer?
    Leaving a majority of raid population with only A1S and A2S for the whole season resulted in a lot of lost subs because people got bored/gave up on A3S.
    At least you can grind Diadem till 3.2 to get all pieces with perfect stat distribution.
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    I def don't think they should kill the lock out and on top of that Diadem is all RNG some ppl can only run it with randoms
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    It's there for the sake of content pacing. It'd take me, say, several weeks to get fully geared up via esoterics for example, but some guy with a ton of free time would do it in a couple of days, then complain about how he has nothing to do while I'm still happily chipping away at my to-do list.

    In the context of raiding, it's there to sort of stagger loot distribution (because of loot being obtainable once per week per boss). The alternative to this would be stupidly low drop rates (like 1-2%).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    anybody read what I wrote? I already said I KNOW why it was in place. But it makes no sense whatsoever if Diadem just kills the content pacing by dropping i210 wiithout lockouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AydenTargarys View Post
    anybody read what I wrote? I already said I KNOW why it was in place. But it makes no sense whatsoever if Diadem just kills the content pacing by dropping i210 wiithout lockouts.
    Let's face it, with how Savage is scaled most people will never even get to see Living Liquid till A3S goes into DF.

    Diadem is a catch-up mechanism, just like Void Ark. Nothing more and nothing less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Right. Instead, people will farm Diadem for a week, be full i210, wonder why they'd do anything else because the rewards suck in comparison, and unsub.

    That sounds like a much better option.
    Honestly, my static is all doing Thordan/Void Ark/Diadem to allow us to progress further in Savage. *shrugs*

    There's at least some people that still want to clear it even if we can get BiS gear from RNGesus on a skybiscuit.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 11-12-2015 at 05:42 PM. Reason: Don't ask me what a skybiscuit is. I don't know either.

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