What Happened to the Diadem Discussion Thread?

[adn]

Any thread that involves wailing about THE DOOM OF FFXIV!!! is living on borrowed time to start with. To be fair, the thread was basically just "Grrrr how dare those filthy casuals have 210 gear like me!"

[ServerCollaps]

raiders have their 210 weapons, which casuals wont get until 3.15

so they are still superior gearwise and theres zero reason to cry about anything yet

[hagare]

Isn't the gear pic fake anyway?

[iambanana]

death is not a light word, especially when the thread itself filled with hate and nonsense

[Archaell]

The doom thread aside, the gear progression could use a little bit of improvement. If diadem drops i210, Savage should have been i215 to make it relevant for a little bit longer.

I am also baffled with the weekly tomestone cap. One would expect that as the gear gets older, the cap would be regularly increasing till it is removed.

[Felis]

what are people complaining about this time? horizontal instead of vertical gearprogression? lmao

That people can get good gear outside of raid
Like everytime at the start of an odd numbered patch

[Nocte]

Hopefully the bug where only 3/4's of the party could get in (and only have one minute remaining on the instance timer) gets fixed (in the next scheduled maint), this is unreal.

Even better if the 2h cooldown is removed, it's entirely unnecessary.

[Yahallo]

Any thread that involves wailing about THE DOOM OF FFXIV!!! is living on borrowed time to start with. To be fair, the thread was basically just "Grrrr how dare those filthy casuals have 210 gear like me!"

raiders have their 210 weapons, which casuals wont get until 3.15

so they are still superior gearwise and theres zero reason to cry about anything yet

That people can get good gear outside of raid
Like everytime at the start of an odd numbered patch

I think it has more to do with how it is possible for the Diadem Gear to actually be better than the raid gear.

This was a picture posted in the deleted thread: http://i.imgur.com/FBNFi3D.png

The Diadem gear in this situation is better than the 210 Esoteric and the 210 Alexander Savage pieces. The sum of its secondary stats total to 196 while the Esoteric and Alexander Savage pieces total to 160 and 159 respectively.

[Yahallo]

Continuing from my previous post:

It is definitely a legitimate concern as if the gear obtained in Diadem can be better, it invalidates the amount of work raiders put into obtaining their gear.The issue isn't that everyone can get 210 pieces; the issue is that everyone can get gear that is better than end game raid gear. End game raid gear should always have the best gear because it is the most difficult content. I don't even raid and I agree with the complaints, though that may be because I have friends who raid and thus know the amount of work they put into it.

[Yahallo]

Again continuing from my previous post because character limit:

The secondary stats on Diadem gear should not be able to go that high; the maximum the secondary stats should be allow to have should be something like 120/the number of secondary stats. So the item in the picture I inked, should have at most, 30 in each of those secondary stats. If it only had 3 secondary stats it can go up to 40, and if it had 2 it can go up to 60.

As it stands, there is little reason to do anything other than Diadem because the potential of the Diadem gear is just too high.

A catch up patch simply doesn't mean releasing gear that is better than end game raid gear.