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  1. #121
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    It would be nice if there was a core change to the party system: e.g. If there are no tanks queuing, just replace that role with a DPS and give that DPS a weird echo buff with enmity and defence

    Or

    If people are running instances to gear up secondary jobs why not just add token systems instead.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Oh please.

    Roulette queues ARE broken when you get in almost instantly by queuing for individual dungeons. It's not a matter of lack of players.
    I'm pretty sure I said it's because there's too many players, and full instances. I just did my daily expert and lvl 60 roulette on BLM and waited less than 5 minutes for both. Because it's off-peak right now. It's not an ideal situation, but basically the queues and more importantly, the instances, are too full during peak hours. Like anything, the busier the time of day, the longer the queues, whether this be going to the bank IRL, or queuing a roulette ingame lol :

    Individual dungeon queues are prioritised over roulette; they have a system in place to accommodate that because usually people who queue a specific dungeon -need- that dungeon for something, such as first time clear. This was mentioned in 2.x patch notes somewhere.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
    I'm pretty sure I said it's because there's too many players, and full instances. I just did my daily expert and lvl 60 roulette on BLM and waited less than 5 minutes for both. Because it's off-peak right now. It's not an ideal situation, but basically the queues and more importantly, the instances, are too full during peak hours. Like anything, the busier the time of day, the longer the queues, whether this be going to the bank IRL, or queuing a roulette ingame lol :

    Individual dungeon queues are prioritised over roulette; they have a system in place to accommodate that because usually people who queue a specific dungeon -need- that dungeon for something, such as first time clear. This was mentioned in 2.x patch notes somewhere.
    Off-peak times mean nothing. I've been queuing since 9.00 AM and I still can't get into an EX roulette as a damn healer.

    If it was a problem of instances, we would get the "Reserving instance" message, like usual.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Off-peak times mean nothing. I've been queuing since 9.00 AM and I still can't get into an EX roulette as a damn healer.

    If it was a problem of instances, we would get the "Reserving instance" message, like usual.
    The DF always displays the reserving instance message. Forming a party and finding an instance are simultaneous processes. The DF will very rarely create a party if there isn't an instance available for them.

    It's also a bit silly to think that peak and off-peak times don't affect queues lol



    My queue just popped after 4 minutes:

    Bearing in mind I'm on an NA server and it is currently off-peak, whereas for you, you're on an EU server and it's probably quite a bit busier right now.





    Notice the Eorzea Time (top right).
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    Last edited by Tadacho; 11-15-2015 at 09:01 PM. Reason: queue popped

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
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    I am not sure what you are trying to prove, tho.

    The fact that your roulette works...good for you. However, the thread is full of people for which IT IS NOT working. Might be due to different data centers, I do not know.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I am not sure what you are trying to prove, tho.

    The fact that your roulette works...good for you. However, the thread is full of people for which IT IS NOT working. Might be due to different data centers, I do not know.
    Not trying to prove anything, just to show that people should really consider that a new patch has just dropped and unfortunately queue times can get very long, and they must take into consideration several factors instead of just jumping on the "it's broken" bandwagon. A case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Data centres could very well be a factor, scrolling through the thread I see a lot of the people are from Chaos servers such as Moogle.

    However, upon further scrolling, I can also see there's maybe 20 posts of people stating "I've been queuing for X minutes, the queue is broken." Several of the posts here are just stating it's broken because they can't see the numbers, which is just a display error, so we can eliminate those posts. >20 people having a long queue time doesn't exactly represent the player base. Maybe, just maybe, you're having bad luck with queues?! I mean, despite what people say, SE are very quick to be transparent with known issues and how they're looking into them (recently 11th November as an example), and they've stated here the DF isn't broken :3

    I think that people are so used to healers and tank having such fast queues they're just having a bit of a shock to the system, and the fact they can't see the numbers in some cases is causing them to believe it's a DF problem.
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    No, the roulettes are definitely a bug (or an unfortunate side effect of priority changes) as many people have reported:

    If you queue Expert Roulette as a healer you'll likely get huge queue times (if it ever pops). However, if you queue healer for both the dungeons manually, you'll get the usual fast queues. This is pretty consistent.

    My speculation is that they've given manual queuing priority over roulette. This kind of makes sense for many dungeons as it allows those that want a particular dungeon to get it. However, for Expert Roulette it for instance means that if tanks are queuing at the same rate as healers queuing manually, then healers on roulette will never get in, as there is always a healer queueing manually ahead of them in the queue.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zandev View Post
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    You are right, as I also previously mentioned, individual dungeons have a priority. People queuing roulettes are actually slotted into the parties of people queuing individual dungeons, if available. Also, new people have a priority too. When a new patch launches, there's a lot of new people unlocking the dungeons for the first time. The queue system prioritises new people, which means people queueing the roulette are at the back of the queue. Over the next few days and weeks, this problem will get less and less.

    Like the dev said, this is working as intended.
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  9. #129
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    Yes! I am having this problem!
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    This one specific patch must have a lot more new people than any other patch ever then because I have never had to sit and wait for hours on end for a roulette to put me in something as a healer. While you can continue to sit here and speculate that it's working right and all these mechanics are stopping people from getting in(which in my opinion is far worse than a bug they need to fix because that is TERRIBLE design) I am going to speculate that it is indeed bugged like a majority of people that are experiencing this believe and will not be shocked if it magically fixes after next maint.
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