Crafting should be adjusted: More input materials should = more exp

[Denmo]

Let me put it this way. Why does the Lumber x3 recipe not give more xp than Lumber x1?

It's a choice for you. You can craft many so you can move on to equipment, or craft one at a time so you can get 3x the exp. I don't see the problem. And if there should be a fix, I agree with:

Just raise the level for 3x Lumber, that will give you more EXP at the same more difficult

On a side note: Anyone notice how ridiculously low the cost of crystals/shards per synth is? A rank 50 only requires AT MOST 10 shards and 1 crystal. You get that amount for every 3 enemy encounters! Should SE reduce the crystal drop rate, or raise the crystal requirements?

[Frein]

HOWEVER, I do agree... I would like to see the leveling process be less tedius and more challenging, or interesting even. Because right now, it just isn't. And that's kind of too bad!! At first it's kinda fun, but you only get new skills every 15-20 levels. .

And these new abilities don't even help with the leveling process, because using them slows you down and reduces your exp rate more than the improved chance of success increases it.

[MariyaShidou]

And these new abilities don't even help with the leveling process, because using them slows you down and reduces your exp rate more than the improved chance of success increases it.

Guess I'm the only one bother to use skill when grinding on 5+ lvl higher recipe >_>

[Bahn]

And these new abilities don't even help with the leveling process, because using them slows you down and reduces your exp rate more than the improved chance of success increases it.

What new abilities? Are you saying using Maker's Muse, Preserve, etc actually LOWERS my experience gained? Where did you get this info?

[EmeraldHill]

You shouldn't be... punished for using the 3x recipes.

The logic should be: If you have the mats to do so, then do it to save time and get through your stack of crap faster. If anything, it should take more shards or something.

Not: Sacrifice all your exp just to save time because the crafting system is neither fun nor engaging.

Face it, crafting is a long and boring grind. Nothing interesting ever happens, "skill" plays a very minor role, and most of the time you're going to be sitting there with your head on your keyboard pressing enter with your nose repeatedly because that makes it more interesting.

It either needs to be made interesting or give us the usual crafting of clicking "Make X" so we can go afk.

[Hachiko]

What new abilities? Are you saying using Maker's Muse, Preserve, etc actually LOWERS my experience gained? Where did you get this info?

It doesn't lower exp directly, but ultimately it does. The most effective way to level is to level on something that is about your level, takes few mats. Something you can just gather a bunch of stuff for, and craft 100 of for 300 exp a peice.

In that situation, you're better off just spamming enter. By doing so, you leave no time to select your optional proccing skills. to slow down your pace enough to do so significantly slows down your exp gain, while not netting you an appreciable benefit (becuase you don't need the skills to complete the easy synths).

Sure, makers muse, preserve, tender touch, they can help you finish more difficult crafts. But, in doing more difficult synths you take on two additional factors. Now you have to do things like wait, and spend extra time using your procced abilities. But you also increase your chance of failure. To add insult to injury, often the more complicated synths also take more materials (thus increasing the risk of failure).

In other words, yeah, I can finish a synth 5 levels above me using skills and carefully synthing, but it takes twice as long, and twice as many mats, and I still might fail. I can complete two basic lumber synths in the same amount of time, so why would I not do that instead?

You shouldn't be... punished for using the 3x recipes.

The logic should be: If you have the mats to do so, then do it to save time and get through your stack of crap faster. If anything, it should take more shards or something.

Not: Sacrifice all your exp just to save time because the crafting system is neither fun nor engaging.

Face it, crafting is a long and boring grind. Nothing interesting ever happens, "skill" plays a very minor role, and most of the time you're going to be sitting there with your head on your keyboard pressing enter with your nose repeatedly because that makes it more interesting.

It either needs to be made interesting or give us the usual crafting of clicking "Make X" so we can go afk.

Exactly. It isn't really a good "choice" for the game development. It's basically saying "if you want the most experience, you're going to sit there and spam enter 3x as many times, even though you have the skill and mats to make the same amount of stuff."

It's needless, and it is degenerative game design. It's already an additional "risk" to craft recipes with more mats (because a failure is much more costly), it shouldn't also be less experience even on success as well.