So, after the patch, how goes it with Paladin?

[Dhex]

Shield Swipe added a little DPS - personally now wishing desperately that Sheltron and Shield Swipe had the same recast.

No more Pacification/Enmity spam on trash packs.

TP falls flat at roughly the same rate.

Pretty much exactly everything anyone that read the prelim-notes projected.

[Blitzace]

If PLD are still complaining after the Patch, then they're just whiners. LMAO

This coming from a war, What a shocker.

[kensatsu]

Coming from a war, SE, Why aggro combo from both war and dark is 300 potency, and the Pld one 260 ? it mean less aggro, less dps...
It's a problem because when a pld is OT without using rage of halone, he still have a good damage output, not as strong than War and dark but it's still not bad
, but not when he is MT, it's why i think Rage of the Halone potency should be the same as the two others tank.
Change the cover range, because when PLD is MT they can cover only the Melee... PLD don't have to get unless skill.
It would be right to make the switch as Dps/tank Stance not using so much GCD,
Swap Sword oat and shield oat again cost 2 GCD, it make sword oat useless, cause you have to swap for a good time if you want to make up the 2 GCD a swap cost... to finaly not win so much dps.

[Ashkendor]

If PLD are still complaining after the Patch, then they're just whiners. LMAO

[Sapphidia]

The shield swipe change above all makes the class more FUN even if the performance gain is a mere 4% or so - it actually makes the button one worth pressing, and off-gcds are always fun to use as it makes the combat feel faster and more fluid. Can't complain.

It certainly hasnt changed any of Paladin's issues in Alex Savage of course (the only thing that fixes that right now is More Gear), but after doing Thordan Extreme I'm actually pretty happy - this fight is just perfect for a more "tank minded" paladin who enjoys making the most out of their mitigation kit, and DPS requirements are really minor. Just being able to Sentinel + Sheltron the Heaven's Heel and see it hit for a paltry 7k or something with such minimal effort makes me smile. I've even found good specific uses for Divine Veil - some good moments of chunky repeated AOE where the raid is grouped.

More encounters like Thordan would go far further to "fixing" Paladin's problems than any actual buffs. If Alex Savage Part 2 is more like Thordan Extreme than Gordian... Paladins are in a really good spot. We shall see.

[Suhr]

Paladin changes?

What Paladin changes?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Paladin feels much better personally. Enjoying mah procs and dat swipe. Not sure why paladins still complain.

[KingOfAbyss]

I will agree with others, even if it does lower dmg, ogcd shield swipe is very nice; you just have to pop your Bulwark, Mine with bosses has been alive pretty much, just the cooldown of it once used.. >.< (they should make it without any cooldown once used)

the rest, I still get to 0 TP, so.. sigh..

[Brannigan]

I will agree with others, even if it does lower dmg, ogcd shield swipe is very nice; you just have to pop your Bulwark

Bulwark gets you at most 2 procs every 3 minutes

[SpookyGhost]

Honestly at this point I just want them to buff PLD to WAR/DRK levels just so we have something else to talk about.