SE Just Remove Specialist Recipes Please

[Ranzan]

On my server all the specialists gear is at least 3mil a pop! ONLY 5 people per market and I'm on a big server. This is not a buyer friendly market. >_< Anyone who is for this are greedy and rich.

[Seyb]

The price is high because those people want to get back the money they spent on gearing up. Only fools would buy it this early. You could choose Armorer, Leatherworker and Weaver as specialist. Then ask one person with blacksmith specialist to craft your ingots and flood the market with NQ end products (from weaver, armorer, leatherworker) at 200k-500k a pop. I'm sure they will be bought a lot. Why is there so much complaining? I will probably also use this gear for my retainer.

The new gear is very cheap to make.

[Ranzan]

@Seyb Im sorry but 1 ingot idk what, should not be 200k-500k a pop. This proves my many points. S

imple they 180ed on what they said what specialist was for. To help more people get into craft if you forgot. Not limiting the already small population of crafter. They never fixed the specialists' skills or made crafting more accessible. So yes this system is flawed cause even later in the patch those prices will still be high cause of less competition. For a buyer that's not good at all.

[Seyb]

@Seyb Im sorry but 1 ingot idk what, should not be 200k-500k a pop. This proves my many points.

No, it doesn't. It simply shows you didn't understand my point, so I edited the post to make it clearer. 200k-500k for a finished product of course! The ingot is practically free of charge (give your BSM specialist friend all the mats).

They didn't 180' on the specialist system. I think they messed up, too. Crater has listed a lot of good points. But look at this post:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263886

They have 'upgraded' it. That's why I think, we wouldn't have the 185 recipes if it wasn't for the specialist system.

[Joronas]

I agree. Specialist recipes need to just go. Specialists should go with them. The experiment failed. Get rid of it. Put a note saying "bad idea" on the file, and toss it in the reject pile.

If losing 185 gear is the price of losing specialist/specialist recipes? Goodbye, so long, I wish I could say I would miss you!

[Seyb]

So you would want to roll back to the gates of 3.05? Okay.

I would have liked them to do it differently, too. Easing up on the materials requirements (no red scrips) for 180 battle gear would have gone a long way.

And to finally make the system casual friendly, they need to buff the specialist actions.

- Byregot's Brow doesn't need a 'good' proc anymore
- Soul crystal has to buff your stats (+20 CP at least)

[PotatoWafflez]

And to finally make the system casual friendly, they need to buff the specialist actions.

- Byregot's Brow doesn't need a 'good' proc anymore
- Soul crystal has to buff your stats (+20 CP at least)

Specialist need to give you cookie cutter versions of the all the cross class skills if they want it to be casual friendly.

The only way to make crafting accessible like people want is to remove the cross class requirements all together if you've specialised.There needs to be no difference between an omnicrafter and a specialist with one level 60 in terms of what they can make with that class and skills they can use.

Personally omni > specialist because people should not be punished for going the extra mile and leveling and gearing all 8 crafters

[Joronas]

Seyb:

The entire specialist system, if they want one, needs an utter rebuild from concept up. They've GOT a working paradigm -- jobs. They COULD have used that, instead of whatever you want to describe the current mess. My preference: do 10-15 different skills, spread them among all the specialist classes (5 to each, different 5 for each, none cross-classed), and reduce the cross-class slots to 5. Guess what? Omnicrafting is not required anymore, if you actually did decent skills on creation. None of this 40% success/proc required stuff. Specialists have a chance, even from single class, at doing all crafting required. And locking stuff behind recipes to make specialists feel special/worthwhile isn't necessary.

[Seyb]

Yeah, i fully agree with the both of you. But we have to look at what we have now and what they can easily change to improve the situation. I doubt they will/can make a full overhaul like you suggest.

[Mindy_Macready]

They did blow up Eorzea, after all.