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    Player Tenkuu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think its partially Minfillia being the source of our busywork, and that people want a lasting consequence of the 2.55 cutscenes. All of Uldah went up in revolt, our allies were facing an army, and the dev team is trying to retcon and downplay a good chunk of it (a lot of the consequences were either after the event(thancred), or self inflicted(Y'shtola)).
    Rather normal that the consequences of an event would be seen *after* the fact, not sure what you're trying to say. In a situation like Thancred's and Y'shtola's, given the circumstances of their teleportation, it is pretty normal for it to have had an effect on both of them, but also, it would have been foolish to kill off the two Scions who have basically been indicated in the past to be the strongest and most capable of their group. Rather than a retcon, it's simply that the devs never intended for these characters to die, instead merely putting them in very dangerous situations and letting those play out according to their skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Well we already explained in lots of comments why we unrate minfilia ( Thread: "if you would kill one of the Scions" ). On this case no tecnicly she wasnt aware of all and his information didnt help us expect : "here is another primal, go and kill him while i wait here"
    Minfilia coordinates the gathering of intelligence and sends the other Scions out on missions to investigate rumors to confirm whether Primals are being summoned or not, of course her information is helpful to us. Most importantly, her information as a fellow Echo user is what first helps us to understand why she wanted our help in fighting them.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Just gonna put a stop to the Minfilia debate by stating that, at the root of it, the main reason so many people dislike her is because she violates one of the core tenets of storytelling: show, don't tell. Yes, she manages and leads and researches and all that, but we never actually see her do any of that. The only thing we ever see her do is stand in the Solar and give us orders (she does step out on occasion, but still contributes little to the mission if we're on one), while we're constantly told how valuable and important she is. Meanwhile the camera is constantly pointed at her... it gets irritating. Really, really irritating.

    Don't know why we're talking about Gaius and Minfilia when this is supposed to be about 3.1... how did we get here?
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    Player Tenkuu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Just gonna put a stop to the Minfilia debate by stating that, at the root of it, the main reason so many people dislike her is because she violates one of the core tenets of storytelling: show, don't tell. Yes, she manages and leads and researches and all that, but we never actually see her do any of that. The only thing we ever see her do is stand in the Solar and give us orders (she does step out on occasion, but still contributes little to the mission if we're on one), while we're constantly told how valuable and important she is. Meanwhile the camera is constantly pointed at her... it gets irritating. Really, really irritating.

    Don't know why we're talking about Gaius and Minfilia when this is supposed to be about 3.1... how did we get here?
    There's absolutely nothing wrong with talking about two of the greatest characters this game has. There's no need to put an end to anything, people will talk about what they want, and move on when they're longer interested by the topic. Forcing the issue won't accomplish anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkuu View Post
    There's absolutely nothing wrong with talking about two of the greatest characters this game has. There's no need to put an end to anything, people will talk about what they want, and move on when they're longer interested by the topic. Forcing the issue won't accomplish anything.
    Oh, but I must disagree.

    Lahabrea is clearly the greatest character this game has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Oh, but I must disagree.

    Lahabrea is clearly the greatest character this game has.
    You misspelled Hildibrand :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    You misspelled Hildibrand :P
    Hildibrand is so much more than a character...

    He's a philosophy, a religion, and a way of life.
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    Player Tenkuu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Oh, but I must disagree.

    Lahabrea is clearly the greatest character this game has.
    Pretty sure I said "two of the greatest characters", implying there are several more. :P Lahabrea is definitely another great one, as is Elidibus for that matter. To truly appreciate a character, you have to recognize not just all that they do, but also their potential for doing more. Minfilia, Gaius and Lahabrea deliver on all of these fronts.
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    There is still Omega weapon ... perhaps Ilberd will luck out and manage to take hold of it? Use that to then destroy the remaining forces of Garlean-Controlled Ala Mhigo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    There is still Omega weapon ... perhaps Ilberd will luck out and manage to take hold of it? Use that to then destroy the remaining forces of Garlean-Controlled Ala Mhigo?
    This could be true, but he could also loose control of it and do more damage than he intended.
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    Honestly it doesn't matter to me if we go to Ala Mhingo for the next expansion. Though the place I really want to visit is the garlean empire. I imagine a city build with all kinds of Magitech and instead of an Atheryte system they have some like a teleporter system where you talk to an attendant and you pop next to another one in the part of the city you wanted. Also things like elevators and such. Can't you tell I love robotic stuff? XD
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