Thread: 3.1 MSQ Reaction [SPOILERS]

Krile was at least foreshadowed back in... what, 2.1? 2.2?

Either way, yeah, Sharlayan ex Machina is getting a tad old, just like the Allagans. At least we got a sort of important character who feels the same way about Allagan crap this patch, though.

Originally Posted by myahele

I wonder just how much the heads of Sharlayan know about what's to come? Afterall, they are experts in Astromancy/astrologian so they atleast may have "seen it within the stars"

And then there's the Gerun apocrypha text and how it's speculated that many things have already been preordained and that the Asciens are doing their best to keep things according to plan. While I don't think they're working with each other, I do believe that Sharlayan and Asciens are of like mind to a degree.

INB4 we find out that Sharlayan got the Ascians to destroy Val becuase there are too many "traitors" there (Krile namely)

Originally Posted by myahele

And then there's the Gerun apocrypha text and how it's speculated that many things have already been preordained and that the Asciens are doing their best to keep things according to plan.

I didn't get that at all, honestly. All we got from that scene is that there's a bunch of preordained stuff involving a lot of key players (including Garlemald and the Triad), but much like Middy back in 2.5, Eldibus is pretty damn vague about how, exactly he feels about all that, just that it means things need to be done. My guess is that his vagueness is actually a sign that he is firmly in the Vayne Solidor camp, and actually wants to stop whatever is written will occur.

I get that we all want to be the good guys, and we all want that to mean we're already on the "screw destiny, I make my own future" side of the fence, but there is no evidence to suggest that we are. If anything, there's more to suggest that we aren't.

Originally Posted by Fenral

I didn't get that at all, honestly. All we got from that scene is that there's a bunch of preordained stuff involving a lot of key players (including Garlemald and the Triad), but much like Middy back in 2.5, Eldibus is pretty damn vague about how, exactly he feels about all that, just that it means things need to be done. My guess is that his vagueness is actually a sign that he is firmly in the Vayne Solidor camp, and actually wants to stop whatever is written will occur.

I get that we all want to be the good guys, and we all want that to mean we're already on the "screw destiny, I make my own future" side of the fence, but there is no evidence to suggest that we are. If anything, there's more to suggest that we aren't.

I can agree with this. We do seem to be in the "follow destiny" camp while Elidibus & co. seem to be in the "fight fate" camp.

I'm the sort of person who prefers to observe, consider, and reason what is right and wrong for myself instead of following the "listen and believe" philosophy. If Elidibus can provide a convincing argument for going against Hydaelyn, I would have no problem doing so. Until he does, however, his enigmatic bullshit is not convincing me.

At the same time, even if the destiny Hydaelyn has spelled out for is is ruinous, I will fight that ruin to the bitter end. We heroes exist to make the impossible possible, right? So there's no reason we can't work with Hydaelyn and spare the world from its supposedly ruinous fate. That is what I mean when I say Elidibus can take his fate shtick and shove it.

Originally Posted by Cilia

I can agree with this.

Now, wait just a cotton-picking--

Oh, wait, what? Oh, alright then.