Curaga draw way too much hate!

[Xenor]

Hey all you CNJs! The team is planning for a full revamp of all actions in 1.20 and will be looking into adjusting things like the amount of enmity gained from cures. So please feel free to provide more feedback and I'll be sure we pass along your thoughts!

What happened to all these revamps being announced near the launch of 1.19? I'm sure that was said in a letter months ago.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Hey all you CNJs! The team is planning for a full revamp of all actions in 1.20 and will be looking into adjusting things like the amount of enmity gained from cures. So please feel free to provide more feedback and I'll be sure we pass along your thoughts!

Does this mean that the elemental nukes will do more damage? Cause I thought that was what 1.19 was supposed to do? It was said that animations and effect would be changed, but didn't mention the damage.

[Khazar]

Hey all you CNJs! The team is planning for a full revamp of all actions in 1.20 and will be looking into adjusting things like the amount of enmity gained from cures. So please feel free to provide more feedback and I'll be sure we pass along your thoughts!

my feedback: im afraid of casting a curaga because it means i will die otherwise i heal some the party. I prefer to do cure II on each one, less dangerous but much more consumption of MP.

[opal]

I'm surprised to find this thread, I had the impression curega2 generated less enmity than it did before 1.19.

People have already suggested abilities to help control your enmity.

Firm Conviction - THM L30.
Out of Sight - ARC L30 Bought.
Soughspeak - CNJ Ability.

Out of sight
Chameleon
Soughspeak

Those are all very good.

In the event that you do draw mobs, you may find the following help too:
Sentinal (gla)
Aegis Boon (shield)
Outmaneuver (shield)
Deflection (shield)
Punishing Barbs (thm)
Drain (thm)

If you cure yourself while you're being attacked, you can make it really hard for your tank to pull the mobs from you. Sentinal and the Sheld Skills help you mitigate the damage sustained so hopefully you won't need to cure yourself until the fight is over.

[Kiara]

Hey all you CNJs! The team is planning for a full revamp of all actions in 1.20 and will be looking into adjusting things like the amount of enmity gained from cures. So please feel free to provide more feedback and I'll be sure we pass along your thoughts!

Hi Bayohne & Yoshida-san,

Here are my thoughts on Conjurers and spell-casting right now:

• Spell Resists (Partial Resist / Full Resist): I realize that Tanaka may have been trying to build in some method to "balance" Magic in the original system, and have something similar to Disciples of War (with missing attacks), but Spell Resists happen far too often and really feel punitive and overly punishing.
  
  Mages have Casting Time (already a penalty compared to Disciples of War), their Spells take MP (that takes time to regenerate), so when you finally get a spell off, and it gets Partially Resisted or Fully Resisted (a common occurrence during grind parties, for example), it feels really frustrating.
  
  The worst example was a R50 friend of mine who tried a fully buffed (Dark Seal II, Profundity II, Bloodrite II +) Ancient Magic Tornado on a Level 1 Star Marmot and... it missed. (This was before 1.19.) As a Final Fantasy fan, you'd expect launching Ancient Magic against weaker enemies to generate stuff like "9999" damage (or at least do something decent). This is just ridiculous.

• Increase Buff Duration Time (Protect, Shell, Shock Spikes): The current Duration Times are far too short (I realize it keeps mages "busy" doing something), but it feels like it's a constant cycle of getting Buffs on and before you know it, you're back to rebuffing the group within minutes.

• Increase Buff Effectiveness (Protect, Shell): Early on in the game (month 2 or 3?), under Tanaka's reign, they nerfed Protect and Shell to be far worse than it used to be. It seemed to be almost useless compared to the protection it used to offer early on, or compared to Protect and Shell in FF XI. Please make Protect II and Shell II feel like they're worth casting.

• More Effectiveness with Tier II (and eventually III, IV) Elemental Spells: With the current calculations for Elemental Spells (like Fire I vs. Fire II, etc.), it's oftentimes better to cast Tier *I* Spells over Tier II because they are faster to cast, have smaller cooldowns, and are cheaper (MP), and do similar damage (depending on the enemy) at times. During some farming situations / grind parties, I can land more Spell Damage on Tier I (including Critical damage), faster, than Tier II spells.

• Faster Casting: Originally the casting times were a bit long, but manageable. But with this latest patch 1.19, it feels like Spell Casting is taking even longer than before. It *feels* like a slow, languid experience in battle (when I play mage). Playing any Class / Job in the new Final Fantasy XIV should be a fun, exciting experience. Casting Time (and lack of queuing the next Spell) really adds to this bad feeling, IMHO.

• Ability for Mages to Participate Effectively in the New Skillchain / Battle Regimen 2.0 System (coming soon): Here's to hoping the new Skillchain / Battle Regimen System is a more free-form, fluid, dynamic and real-time Combo System like Final Fantasy XI's Skillchain (Renkei) System, where Mages can take on Magic Bursts to the end of Combos for bigger damage and bonus magic damage. This will definitely add some excitement and fun to mage classes.

• New, Standout, Awesome Magic Effects: Right now, most of the spells that Conjurers cast are pretty generic, bland looking visual effects. I realize we're not at "Tier IV" Spells yet, but the look between Fire I vs. Fire II is pretty uninspiring. It's just bigger and kinda formless / "blah."
  
  This is especially true for Ancient Magic (Tornado, Burst, Flare, etc.). These are hallmark, big Final Fantasy Magic Spells and in this game, their Visual FX and look and feel and pacing are just terrible. (The damage is finally improving a bit in 1.19, but they are still not very impressive from an overall production value standpoint.)

• Curative Magic Cost: I'm fine with the cost and changes to Cure I, II, III / Curaga in Patch 1.18 (the big MP cost change, separation). This is just a note to hoping that the White Mage Job *reduces* MP Cost for Cure Magic and adds other benefits. This would really make the White Mage Job stand out and players can then appreciate and understand why on a "generic / basic class" (Conjurer) that Cure I, II, III, Raise I, II cost so much, but on White Mage, their MP Costs and Casting Times are reduced greatly.

I hope we get a good revamp of Conjurer in 1.20!

Thanks!

[Neptune]

Hey all you CNJs! The team is planning for a full revamp of all actions in 1.20 and will be looking into adjusting things like the amount of enmity gained from cures. So please feel free to provide more feedback and I'll be sure we pass along your thoughts!

How about adding Sacrifice aoe's to Thaumaturge?

[Aleczan]

How about adding Sacrifice aoe's to Thaumaturge?

In fact, Sacrifice used to be AoE-able spell until they disabled it some patches ago. I was unhappy they removed it, but I did agree that it was over-powered as AoE spell, thus a bit imba.

[Rokien]

How about new casting animations!?

ERhrm.... For passive mode!

[Aleczan]

I'd love Protect & Shell to be like 10 or 15 minutes because it's a hassle to try to gather your party members in one spot to rebuff them every 5 minutes. (You know, it's like herding cats!) 30 mins, however, is overkill in my opinion. I'll be jobless in the party because I won't have much duty to do if Pro&Shell stays for too long.

Shock Spikes & Stoneskin, on the other hands, are fine as they are, since Stoneskin breaks quickly from the damage absorbed anyway. And Shock Spikes, I usually just have to worry about casting it on meleeing members, so it's not hard to throw the Spikes on them while they're fighting an enemy, without worrying about gathering everyone together for the buff.

[Xquiel]

yaay!! i was waiting this revamp