Poor Paladins

[Misutoraru]

IMO everyone just stop playing this job if it is broken. SE will fix it ONLY if ppl not playing it. ^^;
When this job is fixed, everyone will play this job again and you have missed the chance to enjoy the overpower of other jobs.

what broken isnt the class but the end game mechanism

[abzoluut]

That's some guy who quit because he couldn't cut it end game, has nothing to do with PLD. This new patch is looking pretty good for PLD. Shield Swipe changes will make up for their lack of enmity in Sword oath while increasing overall MT DPS, and the TP reduction on Goring will help extend their TP in all situations.

It's funny how you knew this beforehand. I hope you tried PLD post patch in savage. Not much has changed. Yes there is a slight DPS increase, but that's really about it. There are so many good suggestions made to make PLD feel alive. Unforunately it has not been the case.

The only positive thing I could find is that PLD is very good for the new primal.

[Doudousteve]

It's funny how you knew this beforehand. I hope you tried PLD post patch in savage. Not much has changed. Yes there is a slight DPS increase, but that's really about it. There are so many good suggestions made to make PLD feel alive. Unforunately it has not been the case.

The only positive thing I could find is that PLD is very good for the new primal.

YESSSSSSSSSSS

This is what I was wondering since I gave up on savage.

[Ashkendor]

That's some high-level over-dramatization. Paladins are below the other tanks, Paladins have a lot of issues, but Paladins are still able to clear the content. This thing sounds like the job is completely unplayable, useless and unable to do anything at the point where the character is suiciding. That's some emo disney princess shit.

I saw it as kind of an interesting in-character exercise, honestly. The tags gave that away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htDxjW0luDw
He shares our pain

Oh god, I love it. xD

[TheLastRaven]

The way I see it is just that paladins about being left behind at this moment. Yes we can still clear content and yes we can do savage 4 but that was with a few weeks of extra gear right?. we're still getting left behind due to the current state of the meta. This to Paladin players just sucks that our class is kinda being overlooked and the other classes can do our job better. We aren't getting much in terms of a buff, Yes we got a buff but it isn't much, Yes we do fine DPS as an OT but we suffer as MT right? Yes we can still play paladin but it doesn't change that we feel a bit forgotten. We just wanna have our class up to par a bit more is all. I for one am not looking to deal 1300 dps in tanking stance I just want to feel more useful. It's frustrating to people who play it as their main class. Yea I know people are tired of these threads talking about paladin but lets be honest to end with. If warriors or dark knights where where we are they would be doing the same.

[Freyyy]

I saw it as kind of an interesting in-character exercise, honestly. The tags gave that away.

Yes it is, but the character suiciding is too much IMO and turned all of that into that disney princess emo attention-wh*re BS (and this is coming from someone whose best friend suicided, in case someone gets offended, I'm not criticizing the act of suicide, but here, it just doesn't work). It would have been more honorable for an actual "Paladin" to just walk away and go on a journey out of Eorzea to find people he could be helpful to. Suicide is actually an act of extreme desperation, someone whose pain took over everything. A true Paladin wouldn't suicide. A true Paladin always looks for people to protect, to serve and always have faith and an unbreakable will. Also, this character is caring too much about himself. About him being strong, about him being undesired, etc... All the way till the end, where he suicides. It makes the character look more like a selfish fag crying salty tears of jealousy over his bloodthirsty Dark Knight and Warrior friends than anything a true Paladin would be. It's an interesting but failed RP attempt.

[Cheraa]

Yea I know people are tired of these threads talking about paladin but lets be honest to end with. If warriors or dark knights where where we are they would be doing the same.

At least Dark Knights did exactly the same 5 month ago, where Heavensward was new and DRK the weakest tank. Well that was before Alexander launched, with its DRK designed Boss Encounter.

[Faeon]

Snip.

This is the problem, design an encounter to be more suited to certain jobs than others.

[Ralvenom]

This is the problem, design an encounter to be more suited to certain jobs than others.

That would be fine, if AS wasn't designed in such a way that pushing DPS to the max got you through it in the optimum way. Don't get me wrong; dps checks are fine. But tank dps should be a secondary or tertiary concern when designing encounters. 1 encounter (or maybe even 2) would be fine in this manner. But almost of the encounters in AS require not just good damage dealer dps BUT ALSO good tank dps & good healer dps.

It would be one thing if there was 1 boss more suited to playing PLD (not that being a PLD was required), 1 boss more suited to playing DRK, 1 more boss more suited to playing WAR. A good mix of those would be solid. Problem is, I think SE is still figuring out how to fit DRK into the mix, after 2.XX only had WAR & PLD for so long.

[Ashkendor]

Yes it is, but the character suiciding is too much IMO and turned all of that into that disney princess emo attention-wh*re BS (and this is coming from someone whose best friend suicided, in case someone gets offended, I'm not criticizing the act of suicide, but here, it just doesn't work). It would have been more honorable for an actual "Paladin" to just walk away and go on a journey out of Eorzea to find people he could be helpful to. Suicide is actually an act of extreme desperation, someone whose pain took over everything. A true Paladin wouldn't suicide. A true Paladin always looks for people to protect, to serve and always have faith and an unbreakable will. Also, this character is caring too much about himself. About him being strong, about him being undesired, etc... All the way till the end, where he suicides. It makes the character look more like a selfish fag crying salty tears of jealousy over his bloodthirsty Dark Knight and Warrior friends than anything a true Paladin would be. It's an interesting but failed RP attempt.

Yeah, I was kinda '......' at that part myself to be honest. At first I thought he was gonna chuck his sword and shield over the edge and walk away, which is dramatic without stepping over into emo territory. I get that the author was venting (I've done my fair share about the issue myself, both on the forums and to my static) but yea. It started off alright but just got whiny.

Not all stories are good, I suppose, just like I don't enjoy every painting in existence.