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  1. #21
    Player
    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I still love SCH, just gearing it doesn't give that warm fuzzy feeling. xD
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  2. #22
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    I'll be honest, I'm a little confused as to their though processes when it comes to SCH. Emergency and Deployment Tactics are fantastic and Indomitibility is one of the greatest things ever, and I even like the lustrate change now that I've been able to use it to save non-tanks, so they're obviously giving the class a lot of good thought. However....

    1) Not only is there no crit on any weapon past Hive, there are no armor pieces with both crit and det in the entire eso and gordian set lines. Piety is an ok filler, but no crit/det piece anywhere?
    2) SCH questline has us being trained as a soldier by a tonberry. Very little class lore other than a space-flea boss fight at the end, and nothing on the fairy (who doesn't even show up until the end, and gains nothing new anyway).
    3) Our class title is "Nymian Marine". Because that's what I think of when I think of being a SCH.
    4) The SCH esoteric set... Seriously what is going on with it? You've got feathers on your shoulders, notebooks spread around as if they were armor plating, a giant hand-lamp affixed to the back with a massive power cable, a very ostentatious top hat with... gears?... or something on it, and finally a super-short skirt and super-high knee socks in a pair of casual hightop boots for shoes. I feel like a hobo. >_>
    5) Dissipation. The cost is typically too great for the benefit.
    6) If we're being trained by tonberries, where's my instant-kill throat-stab?!
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  3. #23
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Nymian Marine snip
    Honestly, the questline was hilarious. I was giggling pretty hard when they had you yelling out to your drill sergeant.
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  4. #24
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    1) Not only is there no crit on any weapon past Hive, there are no armor pieces with both crit and det in the entire eso and gordian set lines. Piety is an ok filler, but no crit/det piece anywhere?

    5) Dissipation. The cost is typically too great for the benefit.
    You can still stack a fair amount of crit without it being on the weapon/chest. Seeing as we can now deploy Adlos, I can kind of see why our crit was nerfed. I get lucky with it sometimes in Savage raids, and when it's strong enough to make certain hard hitting raid wide mechanics obsolete, it is a little OP!

    I agree with the Dissipation comment. It can be used for DPS, and I have saved a wipe 'once' by using it for emergency burst healing, but it's just too situational to use outside of an opening rotation.
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  5. #25
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Currently if you want to have a pretty good crit/det pièce (except Eapon)
    You need to burn some lalafel to RNGesus before running diademe

    You can have some pretty thing on the island slaying some Dino

    ...

    I agree that dissipation cost is huge... And there is not so many situation where you can kill your faire for the boost and wait for it to come back for the next mechanics
    I can see it fit during the last phase of A2S when only DPS matter

    And I'm thinking about using it on thordan
    EoS 20% healing + dissipation = adlo crit around 5300 (for my currently stuff)
    and a 10k shield is pretty XD
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  6. #26
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I have 710 crit on my SCH without crit on my weapon right now... and I don't see any difference as when I has 500ish crit
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  7. #27
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    Phileas's Avatar
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    Dia Beetus
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Now that adlo can be spread, more crit would make sch even more broken than it currently is.
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  8. #28
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    They totally want SCH as sub DPS, like on Thordan EX lol.
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  9. #29
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    Chii Soseriouz
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Whm book drops from thordan ex lol
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  10. #30
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
    Now that adlo can be spread, more crit would make sch even more broken than it currently is.
    How is SCH broken at the moment.
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