Specialist Recipes

[SchalaZeal]

I don't think there's a non hasty touch solution to 1* and 2* crafts. Generally, hasty touch rotations make up the backbone of master crafting, so it's something every crafter has to learn how to use if they want to reliably craft the latest recipes.

The other mats were at most lv 58, so the lv 60 thing worked fine, for making birch lumber, adamantite nuggets, etc. I simply don't have a hasty touch variant I know of.

The one I saw on reddit is:

CZ -> IQ -> SH2 -> Manip -> Basic/Precise x4 -> Manip -> SH2 -> Basic/Precise x3 -> GS -> BB -> Ing II -> CS2 x2, needing 444 CP with food, and 676 crafts to do CS2 x2 and finish.

I have 761/696 with 396 CP on all my crafts that have the i180 main hand (CUL and CRP so far), 720/674 otherwise, without food.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

The other mats were at most lv 58, so the lv 60 thing worked fine, for making birch lumber, adamantite nuggets, etc. I simply don't have a hasty touch variant I know of.

The one I saw on reddit is:

CZ -> IQ -> SH2 -> Manip -> Basic/Precise x4 -> Manip -> SH2 -> Basic/Precise x3 -> GS -> BB -> Ing II -> CS2 x2, needing 444 CP with food, and 676 crafts to do CS2 x2 and finish.

I have 761/696 with 396 CP on all my crafts that have the i180 main hand (CUL and CRP so far), 720/674 otherwise, without food.

For my detailed breakdown of 35 durab items strategies, please visit Ch46 of my crafting guide:
http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-ad...e-tsukino.156/

I have details there a Hasty Touch rotation (not a static rotation, needs improvise on the spot) utilizing 3 Manipulation and 2 CZ, reaching IQ11.

After that, I have listed a bunch of macros with zero Hasty Touches, including:
...a fully optimized 412 CP macro that gives maximum quality on lvl 58 items (it cannot get any stronger with 412 CP on lvl 58 items).
...a 412 CP macro that handles lvl 60 items.
...a 426 CP variant that handles lvl 60 items.
...a 444 CP version that handles lvl 60 items slightly better than the rotation you got from Reddit.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Really would like to know how to 1) do the 60 1 star 35 durability mat (HQ 100%) and 2) a 2 star rotation starting at 0 quality that can work without 900 control or having 11 hasty procs. Because I sure haven't found one yet, and that's stopping me from even trying 2 star 60.

Something about not wanting to throw millions to the bin.

I found some rotations like the Maker's Mark one, but I don't know how many touch procs I need to get to not go "screw that, Reclaim" or minimum quality needed to start when you have just the basic 718/695. Would be nice to make my own Astral Birch accessories and not pay 6 million per for them.

For the new HW 1 star 35 durab items in Master Recipe III, I basically used a very similar rotation as the Hasty Touch rotation I mentioned in my post above, with the exception that I thrown down a CS II earlier as a filler, and then planted an Ingen2 near the end so that I can finish the item with 2 additional strokes of CS II. So far, I have only made 6 Leathers, and all 6 were HQ.

As for HW 1 star 70 durab items in the Master Recipe III, I have listed a pretty secure macro in Ch48 of my crafting guide. The macro uses 12 Hasty Touches, and allow up to 4 failed Hasties to happen, and you can still HQ it. This macro gives me very high fidelity... only gives 1 NQ every 10+ items. If you manually craft using that macro rotation, you will probably HQ things very safely.

As for HW 2 star 70 durab items in the Master Recipe III, like Sollux, MN_14 and everyone else said, there's no guarantee on 100% quality if you start with pure NQ mats. I have been using Rath's rotation as well mostly. But my HQ rate on mats has been very high... usually only NQ-ing an ingot or lumber at 1 out of 10. I usually start with approx 500 to 1000 quality. But sometimes I do use pure NQ mats. Notice that the same rotation in different people can be quite different. The improvising work on the spot by the crafter will change EVERYTHING. I can sometimes change the rotation dramatically on the spot to utilize the Good or excellent conditions... especially if 2 Goods pop during the string of FS... I could grab both Tricks, and utilize that extra CP later for many different things.

I never use pure NQ mats for my final product, and thus, so far I haven't NQ any final gear yet (touch wood!). There was this one time which I got a horrible string of failed HTs without any extra CP from Trick of Trades to save it, and I was only able to reach IQ8. But since I used the maximum amount of HQ mats, so I still managed to luckily HQ it. Whew!

[MN_14]

I have 761/696 with 396 CP on all my crafts that have the i180 main hand (CUL and CRP so far), 720/674 otherwise, without food.

Caimie's guide posted above covers the general strategy for 35 durability items. One thing that you'll have to adjust would be how progress is taken care of. It's best if progress can be finished in 2-3 steps.

For 1* 35 durability items, I think I'm able to use 3 CS2 under ingenuity 2 or use 2 RS and 1 CS2 (without ingen 2). Whenever a good proc appears, I normally use precise touch if there's enough durability unless I'm running short on CP (in which case I'd use tricks of the trade).

[Katlyna]

I'm talking theory with someone else in my FC now. I'll see about posting something when I have something more firm. Right now my rotations for 1* 35 durability items are clumsy at best. Though I'm reliably hitting 90% I'd much prefer to post a solid rotation soon.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I'm talking theory with someone else in my FC now. I'll see about posting something when I have something more firm. Right now my rotations for 1* 35 durability items are clumsy at best. Though I'm reliably hitting 90% I'd much prefer to post a solid rotation soon.

Looking forward to it, Katyyy! Your rotations never disappoint!

I made 2 pieces of i185 gear to help my FC mates reach ilevel for Void Ark! But that's it for me with crafting now. I'll be spending time unlocking/doing Void Ark today as well as unlocking the new dungeons (I still hate calling them "new", since only 1 is new... Pharos is recycled... not really new... and I'm REALLY REALLY pissed at the continuation of the daily "2-dungeon expert roulette" that drives people to insanity).

[SchalaZeal]

Using the sim, I tried a rotation counting no trick procs. I have to end it after 9 hasty if I want to have Ingenuity II and enough durability to Careful Synthesis II x3.

CZ * -> IQ * -> SH2 -> Hasty x2 -> Manip -> Hasty x2 * -> SH2 -> Hasty -> Manip -> CZ -> Hasty x2 * -> SH2 -> Manip -> Hasty x2 *-> SH1 -> GS -> INN -> ING2-> BB -> CS 2 x3

With 761/727/457 this will get above 100% HQ by 900 quality, provided all 9 hasty procs. This is without any Trick, without any Precise. But it does need all 9 to proc. If only 8 proc, you're short 350 quality. If 7 proc, you're short 1699 quality. 7/9 is what chance would say Hasty would proc. Not sure what rate Trick is.

Edit: Forgot about SH1 at the end

7 procs if you have 800 control would still be short 950 quality. But that's easier to get than 1700.

Note that since the sim doesn't have the 60 1 star mats, I used a 60 1 star 70 dur item and just never let myself go below 35.

I'm good with numbers but I rather plan the rotation beforehand than improvise on the fly, considering I need to have 128 CP for the ending sequence, but also 35 durability and not anything less. Using a single hasty more means I need to use Manipulation and I don't have an extra 88 CP.

You need 1 Trick proc to achieve the rotation given the last SH needed or 457 CP. Only 4 chances to proc Trick before you're in the end sequence. Ouch without the CP. Better just have 457 base and tricks would be a bonus to turn a Hasty to a Precise.