Specialist Recipes

[Malakai]

So the patch notes showed an example of one and that was GSM housing item the Faerie Chandelier. So that has me thinking, if maybe all the specialist recipes will be either furnishings or glamour type items. Which imo wouldn't bother me personally so much since you could easily find a friend to make it who had specialist in that area or could just use red scrips to change to that specialist job to make the items if you wanted them and not have to buy them, then switch back again. Also it's not like it's detrimental to the other crafting classes if they are set up like that whereas it would be if a certain material from a specialist crafting is needed to craft a specialist item on another crafting job. Anyone else's thoughts on what they think the recipes are going to be like? Or what they feel they should be like?

[blueruckus]

My only concern is classes like ARM and CUL don't have any of these vanity items in their recipe lists. So either it's opposite what you say and Specialist recipes won't be limited to vanity gear OR not all classes are getting Specialist recipes yet, making Specialist still useless for them.

It's gonna be interesting if ALL the new recipes are specialist only. I almost kinda wanna see that happen to see how it shakes things up. Almost.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

If Specialist Recipes are only glamor items and furniture, then all those Specialist Actions they introduced in 3.0 are useless. Thus, even if Specialist Recipes only include glam and furn, it will only be temporary. There will be Specialist Recipes that require pushing of quality in either 3.1 or 3.2 the latest. I personally would guess that the sky pirates stuff would already be specialists items. But we will see in a few hours.

You are very right about how easy it is to find a friend with the needed specialization. But I dont think anyone would spend 480 red scrips to change specialization just to make a few items, and then spend another 480 red scripts to switch back. You are talking about 2.5 weeks of red scrips here. It's totally not worth it. If someone decided to make a switch, it will likely be for the long run.

[Silverbane]

If Specialist Recipes are only glamor items and furniture, then all those Specialist Actions they introduced in 3.0 are useless

... because, just to state something so obvious that Caimie didn't think it needed saying, there is no value-add in making furniture and glamour items HQ, and making NQ items is trivially easy using standard actions available to every class.

[aerolol]

If Specialist Recipes are only glamor items and furniture, then all those Specialist Actions they introduced in 3.0 are useless.

Breaking news... they have been useless ever since they have been introduced...

Gating the new ilv185 behind specialist crap is (yet another) very bad move if that is really the case.

You'd have to specialize in BSM and ARM just to make tank/some DRG gear, while to craft caster/ranged/healer/other melee just LTW or WVR specialization is fine

I really hope that's not the case.

Why does SE have to listen to the most ridiculous ideas, such as "exclusive crafts that require specialization"......

There are SO MANY more important things that could be fixed very easily in the game, yet development time is spent in order to make people be unable to do all the things they have implemented?!?

[blueruckus]

Seeing how none of the new recipes use current 2 star materials and the favor mat adjustment, I would more considering use scrips now to do a Specialist change every now and then if needed.

Speaking of that, I'm still curious to see what's being added to Rowena's scrip shop.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

My only concern is classes like ARM and CUL dont have any of these vanity items in their recipe lists. So either it's opposite what you say and Specialist recipes wont be limited to vanity gear OR not all classes are getting Specialist recipes yet, making Specialist still useless for them

I'd not be surprised if they make LTW, WVR, BSM, ARM & GSM favored in this patch to make i185. It's not uncommon for SE to favor certain classes & neglect some in one patch, and then suddenly buff up the neglected ones in the next patch.

Back in 2.3, everyone took BSM for desyn because of the massive amt of weapons they could desyn. LTW was least favored. Then in 2.4, they suddenly made LTW king, giving it the cheapest option to produce fieldcraft iii when they were at peak demand.

Right now, they can do the same to CUL & ALC, you know?

[Silverbane]

I'd not be surprised if they make LTW, WVR, BSM, ARM & GSM favored in this patch to make i185.

I found it interesting that ARMBSM cannot make any i185 gear, but is the only class that can make the Titanium Alloy Ingots that all the ARM and GSM Sky Pirate recipes need and two of the WVR Sky Pirate pieces need. Too bad SkyP gear can't be melded.

LTW, on the other hand, not only make Pterodactyl Leather (used by WVR and GSM for Sky Pirate gear) but also makes its own Sky Pirate gear as well -- without needing any top-end mats from other crafters, just titanium, crawler silk, and the like. So looks like LTW is winning for i185 raid gear in patch 3.1.

The winner for glamours and furnishings, on the other hand ... those coffins ... that Falconer's shirt ... I just cannot tell.

[Edit: fixed to chamnge ARM to BSM, and note about SkyP gear]

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I found it interesting that ARM cannot make any i185 gear, but is the only class that can make the Titanium Alloy Ingots that all the ARM and GSM Sky Pirate recipes need and two of the WVR Sky Pirate pieces need.

I think ARM can make i185...

[Silverbane]

My bad, meant to type BSM. Fixed.