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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    * Players cannot dismiss or add party members while undertaking exploratory missions.

    Anyone concerned about this? If votekick is not available, then DF explorations can become leechers, bots and trolls playground who could just remain at starting point and only loot for precious items and gear when their party obtains chests. And there's nothing that can be done about it.
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    Eva Earlong
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    It sounds very concerning to me hope se rethinks this.
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    I had not thought about that, but sure, you are 100% correct.

    The Ishgard DF airship thing WILL DEFINITELY become leechers, bots and trolls playground in a way that will make previous leechers, bots and trolls in CT/ST/WoD look like the most competent players ever.

    Only way to avoid this is to go with a pre-made party, either with your FC's airship or ishgard thing.
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    Ririndo Sekai
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    Considering the 120 min cool down on going on another exploration, not being able to kick leechers will be really annoying and frustrating when the exploration fails because of leechers/AFK'ers. I feel like most deicsions that SE makes are based on the idea that all players are "kind". Have they still not learned the true nature of MMO players? ._.
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    On the other hand, if you get unfairly kicked, you're looking at a 2 hour lockout timer.
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririndo View Post
    Have they still not learned the true nature of NA/EU MMO players? ._.
    Needs to be clarified because the JP DF/PF is a pretty fantastic place from everything I hear about it. The development team is JP and likely play on those same servers. Really isn't their fault the NA/EU communities are loaded up with jerks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririndo View Post
    I feel like most deicsions that SE makes are based on the idea that all players are "kind".
    I reckon this decision could also well be made because they assume that players won't be "kind".

    In particular, they might be anticipating a larger amount of premades in airship exploration and thus a larger degree of premade votekick abuse. That's really just a guess, though.
    Maybe it's also just SE trying to give us a broad hint that this feature is intended to be done within FCs.
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    More reason for NA players to get on board with keeping their own blacklist and honestly, get a backbone when forming their own PFs. Enforce it and hold everyone accountable. If I had a leecher in my farm/PF party, I'd make sure to call them out and put em on my blacklist.

    There also needs action on SE's side in regards to DF. At that point they're just grieving the players and honestly it shouldn't be encouraged.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    I thought that airship exploration took premade parties of whatever size, and dumped them into the islands with several other completely random parties? So if you enter with only 2 or 3 people, your group would only consist of those people, but you could potentially interact with the other random groups? In that case, I don't see why you would want to kick anyone in your group, and you obviously can't kick anyone from a rival group.

    I didn't follow the exploration explanation too closely though, because I'm more interested in seeing it first hand tomorrow.
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    With a 2 hour cool down i take a troll or leech any day of the week over a unfair kick.
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