Learning how to properly play AST

[Apeiron]

Wasn't saying it was, just that that's how you can do it.

[TatoRazzino]

Wasn't saying it was, just that that's how you can do it.

You can also pop Blood for Blood as a BRD during Cascade in A3S while you're weakened and just missed a Deployed Adlo. It's a way of increasing your DPS output by 10% 2 seconds while losing 100% of your DPS for more than that. If you're going to give advice on how you can use something, it's pointless to show combos that make you lose more than what you get.

[Apeiron]

Wasn't giving advice, just making a statement along with your statement.

I don't think it will. The Spear only works with cooldowns that were activated while having the card on; using the Spear on yourself will do nothing for the Draw skill because you already activated it.

[TatoRazzino]

Wasn't giving advice, just making a statement along with your statement.

Someone said that if you don't know what to do with a Spear you can just use it on yourself to reduce Draw's recast. No one said anything about using a Spear you Spread.

[Apeiron]

My reply was intended to be a confirmation of your statement "I don't think it will." without being as short as "It won't." It also added that if someone really wanted to they could reduce the cooldown of Draw by spreading Spear and then using it on themselves. Is it advisable? No. The Spear could be put to better use on the tank or DPS so that their oGCD are back up sooner (as was stated earlier on in the thread). But, if you're bored on AST and running through dungeons with your friends who don't mind a little shenanigans, why not?

[LegoTechnic]

Typically I only use Spear if Shuffle is on cooldown, but if I must then I prefer to throw it to a SMN or SCH since there's a good chance it will effect their next Aetherflow cooldown given how often it's used. It is still probably my least favorite card in the deck, though.

[raela]

Do not underestimate how lovely watching gravity crash on your enemies is. It is a very satisfying spell effect and the number one reason odd as it may be why I went astro this time round over my old main of years.

Gravity is 52 and I'm leveling through the 50 roulette only.....

[TatoRazzino]

Typically I only use Spear if Shuffle is on cooldown, but if I must then I prefer to throw it to a SMN or SCH since there's a good chance it will effect their next Aetherflow cooldown given how often it's used. It is still probably my least favorite card in the deck, though.

I like the Spear a lot because I can RR it to double the next card I use. That's always useful.

[Lobotomite]

BRDs may waste the card completely if they get procs for Bloodletter.

While IIRC a Bloodletter proc takes priority, Empy is on a 15s cooldown, so I'd always throw it on a Bard. Chances of a BRD needing to blow 2 extra GCDs on Bloodletter procs is almost nonexistent (or I would think).

My thought process when Spear comes up goes like so:

1) Do I have a MCH, BRD [EDIT: Bard actually isn't a very good choice], or NIN in the party?
Y: Instantly goes to one of them; highest DPS if multiples
N: Continue to question 2.

2) Is my MP running low, and will Lumi be up during the 20s duration?
Y: Toss on self.
N: Continue to question 3

3) Am I using voice comms?
Y: Ask if any DPS have a lot of cooldowns to blow and toss on individual if they say yes, or on your healing partner if their MP is low and Shroud/AF/Lumi is up.
N (or if no one has cooldowns): Continue to question 4.

4) Is a Road effect already up?
N: Road it. Basically every card benefits from Extended Road.

Yes, Extended Road: Throw on MNK (guaranteed reduction on Shoulder Tackle, Elixir Field, and Tornado Kick), DRG (guaranteed reduction on Leg Sweep/Jump), or a tank

Yes, Enhanced Road: Shuffle. If Shuffle on c/d, cry inside, choose a random party member from the above list (MNK/DRG/tank), and pray their c/ds will be coming up.

Yes, Expanded Road: Spread if near the end of a dungeon or trash pull and preparing for a boss, Shuffle otherwise. Cry inside and Road if Shuffle on c/d. You could also just throw it out to get rid of it, but this would strike me as risky if you screw up someone's cooldown alignment.

[TatoRazzino]

While IIRC a Bloodletter proc takes priority, Empy is on a 15s cooldown, so I'd always throw it on a Bard. Chances of a BRD needing to blow 2 extra GCDs on Bloodletter procs is almost nonexistent (or I would think).

My thought process when Spear comes up goes like so:

1) Do I have a MCH, BRD, or NIN in the party?
Y: Instantly goes to one of them; highest DPS if multiples
N: Continue to question 2.

2) Is my MP running low, and will Lumi be up during the 20s duration?
Y: Toss on self.
N: Continue to question 3

3) Am I using voice comms?
Y: Ask if any DPS have a lot of cooldowns to blow and toss on individual if they say yes, or on your healing partner if their MP is low and Shroud/AF/Lumi is up.
N (or if no one has cooldowns): Continue to question 4.

4) Is a Road effect already up?
N: Road it. Basically every card benefits from Extended Road.

Yes, Extended Road: Throw on MNK (guaranteed reduction on Shoulder Tackle, Elixir Field, and Tornado Kick), DRG (guaranteed reduction on Leg Sweep/Jump), or a tank

Yes, Enhanced Road: Shuffle. If Shuffle on c/d, cry inside, choose a random party member from the above list (MNK/DRG/tank), and pray their c/ds will be coming up.

Yes, Expanded Road: Spread if near the end of a dungeon or trash pull and preparing for a boss, Shuffle otherwise. Cry inside and Road if Shuffle on c/d. You could also just throw it out to get rid of it, but this would strike me as risky if you screw up someone's cooldown alignment.

I don't think it works with Empyreal Arrow, sadly. It's a Weaponskill, not a Skill, and it's affected by Attack Speed. If I'm not mistaken, you reduce Empyreal Arrow's recast timer by using The Arrow, not The Spear. I may be wrong, though.