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    wait, so based on this it seems like we might still be able to PL quite easily:

    An issue wherein the amount of EXP yielded was not adjusted properly when low- and high-level players were grouped together.
    Can anyone explain this to me? Before 1.19, we were able to have a level 50 and a level 1 in the same party. Then if we fought level 10 mobs, the level 50 char got no exp but the level 1 chars would. Is that still the case? Or is it more like if the level 50 gets normal exp, the level 1 will get none?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    wait, so based on this it seems like we might still be able to PL quite easily:



    Can anyone explain this to me? Before 1.19, we were able to have a level 50 and a level 1 in the same party. Then if we fought level 10 mobs, the level 50 char got no exp but the level 1 chars would. Is that still the case? Or is it more like if the level 50 gets normal exp, the level 1 will get none?
    The patch is not live yet. I don't think anyone can explain how the changes were done exactly, only speculate. ^^;

    PL'in will continue as Yoshida still feels its ok to do it. Different, but will continue.

    Good to see changes and fixes done quickly. Good job Dev Team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    The patch is not live yet. I don't think anyone can explain how the changes were done exactly, only speculate. ^^;

    PL'in will continue as Yoshida still feels its ok to do it. Different, but will continue.

    Good to see changes and fixes done quickly. Good job Dev Team.
    What I mean is, I don't understand exactly what is being changed. It seems there is a bug of sorts that was introduced in 1.19 wherein you could have a level 50 and a level 40 in a party and if you fought properly ranked mobs for the level 50, the level 40 actually got more exp then the level 50. But, previous to 1.19 if two players one level 50 and one level 1 were in the same party and you fought mobs at level 10 to 15ish, the level 50 obviously got no exp, but the level 1 would get normal exp but at an alarming rate because the level 50 could oneshot everything. It sounds to me like the latter is still very possible.

    What I'm getting at is that it seems like they are not addressing PLing as it was pre 1.19, and instead are addressing a bug from 1.19. Does that sound right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    wait, so based on this it seems like we might still be able to PL quite easily:



    Can anyone explain this to me? Before 1.19, we were able to have a level 50 and a level 1 in the same party. Then if we fought level 10 mobs, the level 50 char got no exp but the level 1 chars would. Is that still the case? Or is it more like if the level 50 gets normal exp, the level 1 will get none?
    Basically exp will begin to degrade if members are outside the optimum range (+/-5 levels?)

    So now, as it was originally intended, a rank 50 in a party with anyone pretty much under 40 will cause no one to get exp. Meaning PLing must be done from outside the party now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Basically exp will begin to degrade if members are outside the optimum range (+/-5 levels?)

    So now, as it was originally intended, a rank 50 in a party with anyone pretty much under 40 will cause no one to get exp. Meaning PLing must be done from outside the party now.
    I'm not sure this is correct. Assuming they are going back to an exp formula similar to pre 1.19, PLing (in the same way) is still very possible, just at a slightly slower rate than post 1.19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    wait, so based on this it seems like we might still be able to PL quite easily:



    Can anyone explain this to me? Before 1.19, we were able to have a level 50 and a level 1 in the same party. Then if we fought level 10 mobs, the level 50 char got no exp but the level 1 chars would. Is that still the case? Or is it more like if the level 50 gets normal exp, the level 1 will get none?
    In 1.19 plvl was possible from within the group, now plvl has to be while not grouped up. Meaning lower level has to claim the mob before it can be killed no more afk leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    In 1.19 plvl was possible from within the group, now plvl has to be while not grouped up. Meaning lower level has. To claim the mob before it can be killed no more afk leveling.
    That was possible before 1.19, just slightly differently.

    let me explain the difference.

    POST 1.19 PLing
    group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 35s
    the 50 kills everything while the rest watch, the level 35s get more exp than the level 50
    everyone got exp

    PRE 1.19 PLing
    group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 1s
    the 50 kills everything but the level 1s only get exp if the level 50 gets none or very little
    only the low level chars get exp
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 10-14-2011 at 12:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    That was possible before 1.19, just slightly differently.
    Really i didnt kno it was possible to attack claimed mobs outside of party in 1.18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Really i didnt kno it was possible to attack claimed mobs outside of party in 1.18
    it wasnt
    but you could still be 50 in a group of low ranked people and get them tons of easy quick exp back then too

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    it wasnt
    but you could still be 50 in a group of low ranked people and get them tons of easy quick exp back then too
    Hmmm yah i remember that, it wasnt as good tho, doubt they will go back to a similar xp formula as 1.18 as they dont want players going afk.
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