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    Max Potion/Ether Added!

    In the full patch notes:

    Full Patch Notes 3.1

    We learned that Max Potions and Eithers have been added.

    Now here's my question. Do they actually fully restore all HP/MP? What is the recast on these?

    I suspect that they're likely locked behind ALC specialist recipes. Which is perfectly fine to me.

    How excited are you about this? Do you think Potion Pots will now be mandatory to bring into a raid? Casters, how excited are you for Max Ethers and how would this affect your rotations? Let's not forget about Bard Songs and Tank MP. MP Benedictions for healers as well!

    I'm still really suspicious that it restores all HP/MP at all. In a game like this, (considering with how stingy they've been with consumable items until now) I am inclined to believe that this is too good to be true. I really want to believe that it restores all as the name "Max" implies, but a part of me feels that it would only restore 50% at best; but I suppose we will see when the patch goes live tomorrow.

    If Max Potion/Ethers are really a thing, how do you think this will affect the game long term down the road?

    What would you rather use your potions for? STR/DEX/INT pots or save it for a Max full restore instead?

    What're you comments about this?
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 11-10-2015 at 01:37 AM.

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    I would bet it's just a slightly stronger version of X pot/X Ether

    Having a full restore pot would be tremendously difficult to balance
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    No, they don't restore it all. Description says "restore a considerable amount of MP..."

    So we have to wait and see. Probably it won't be that much, considering that Hi Elixir do this:

    Restores up to 24% of HP (1120 max)
    Restores up to 20% of MP (690 max)

    I guess they will be around double that amount. But we'll have to wait and see.
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    Which honestly still isn't a good amount, healers will get 1 or 2 extra casts? Maybe. When compared to end game, i would assume the bonus stat to Int/Mnd/Str would be a lot more wanted than a small HP/MP restore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Which honestly still isn't a good amount, healers will get 1 or 2 extra casts? Maybe. When compared to end game, i would assume the bonus stat to Int/Mnd/Str would be a lot more wanted than a small HP/MP restore.
    You can use the stats potions and it wont share a CD timer with the Heal pots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    You can use the stats potions and it wont share a CD timer with the Heal pots.
    Can you? *.* I musta overlooked that in the notes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    You can use the stats potions and it wont share a CD timer with the Heal pots.
    Really? Unless thats a change in the notes could have sworn Stat pots were shared with restorative. Good to know though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Now here's my question. Do they actually fully restore all HP/MP? What is the recast on these?

    I suspect that they're likely locked behind ALC specialist recipes. Which is perfectly fine to me.
    Based on past experience, no. I don't think they'll restore full HP/MP. This game's potions have never been that powerful.

    How excited are you about this? Do you think Potion Pots will now be mandatory to bring into a raid? Casters, how excited are you for Max Ethers and how would this affect your rotations? Let's not forget about Bard Songs and Tank MP. MP Benedictions for healers as well!
    It's going to depend on how expensive they are to make vs how much MP/HP they actually restore.

    I really want to believe that it restores all as the name "Max" implies, but a part of me feels that it would only restore 50% at best; but I suppose we will see when the patch goes live. tomorrow.
    I think you're reading too much into the name. I mean, in FF games, Elixirs typically give a full HP/MP restore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    And to be fair, "Max Potions/Ethers" in other FF games DO restore all.
    That was kinda my point. You can't really make any assumptions based on the name. The description indicates they won't restore all.

    I honestly think a full restore item would be ridiculously overpowered the way this game is set up.
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