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    Player Tenkuu's Avatar
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    Damn, I hadn't finished replying to that post and planned on editing it later, totally forgot about it...



    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Since you're going to be pedantic like that, here is the exact quote.
    I'm not even the one who brought up this point, but thanks! And I really think you're misunderstanding the meaning of the term pedantic here, especially since I wanted to look at the japanese version of this, and that quote is not it. Having now heard the quote in japanese, I can confirm that Ilberd says nothing about the Scions in there.

    He goes on to whinge about Ala Mhigo, of course, but this is the important bit.
    Actually the important bit is right there in the sentence you just posted: he is whining.

    Of course, there's a big difference between working for the amoral Lolorito and working for the righteous, upstanding Scions, but he does have a point. We do good things, but only as the champion of others' causes. This is changing, as the Warrior of Light sought to finish the Knights of the Round in part to avenge Haurchefant and our collaboration with Leofard is entirely voluntary. That said, in 2.x we're just a tool to be thrown at whatever is bothering X city-state right now. We'd never fight for a cause we don't believe in, but that still doesn't change the fact we're not fighting for our own cause beyond self-preservation.
    Were it only others' causes that we were championing, we wouldn't be fighting in the first place, because that is not the sort of character the Warrior of Light is. On the contrary, it is because we found those who will help us in championing a common cause that we have joined the Scions. Depending on each player's personal feelings towards those NPCs, it may be easy to miss, but the various little quests we do before joining them make it clear. The Scions do not approach just anyone, they approach those who have proven to have a righteous character and the strength to fight for their convictions.

    Since we're not tagging spoilers here I guess... I dunno, maybe foisting the burden of being "Eorzea's hope" on you? Fray never says anything the Scions said or did impacted you in a meaningful way, but that's likely just because the issue doesn't come up during the storyline. Fray is a collection of all the "darkness" in your heart - all the negative thoughts and emotions you feel, but repress because you think it's wrong to feel and think that way.
    Even if that was a burden we did feel, it would hardly be cause for rancor towards them. Also, I feel like you need to check this out.

    Naturally, facing yourself is no easy task. The only thing that would have made it better would have been your Shadow, after manifesting, saying "I am a shadow of your true inner self..."
    I don't disagree at all about us having an inner darker self, I'm just completely certain that it absolutely does *not* concern the Scions. If there is only one group we can trust to be our unflinching allies, they are it.
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    Last edited by Tenkuu; 12-04-2015 at 12:03 PM.