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    Alexiell's Avatar
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    So the only new useful items are those white ilvl 185 with no materia slots that are little better than unmelded ilvl 180? Also they give much more crafting materials for ooids/tokens now... So basically, everyone who spent the time until 3.1 crafting his own crafter/gatherer stuff to be ready for 3.1 just wasted his time?
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexiell View Post
    So basically, everyone who spent the time until 3.1 crafting his own crafter/gatherer stuff to be ready for 3.1 just wasted his time?
    Not at all, they have a head start on being ready for 3.2!
    OK, I know, that's not what anyone wants to hear. But it's the best that can be made of the situation.
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    Merida Quigg
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    The question is do we get T5 crafting/gathering gear :<
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    Colette Pascal
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    Will this save crafting? Yes. It is now alive and not dead. How good a life it is can be debated, but this definitely brings crafting back to life. There are already more i185 items on the MB currently than there were i180 that sold over the entire time they were available (which basically was zero). The biggest mistake SE made in 3.05 was making the mats too hard to get.

    There is plenty of market for "good enough to get you into 24-man raids" gear. I made my fortune primarily selling i90 for many months, even after i110 had been released, all the way up until Heavensward dropped. The two key things needed are good enough ilvl to do content and affordability. It is a little early to say how much the mats will cost, but my gut feeling is it won't be too horrible.
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    Kheima Rayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Will this save crafting? Yes. It is now alive and not dead. How good a life it is can be debated, but this definitely brings crafting back to life. There are already more i185 items on the MB currently than there were i180 that sold over the entire time they were available (which basically was zero). The biggest mistake SE made in 3.05 was making the mats too hard to get.

    There is plenty of market for "good enough to get you into 24-man raids" gear. I made my fortune primarily selling i90 for many months, even after i110 had been released, all the way up until Heavensward dropped. The two key things needed are good enough ilvl to do content and affordability. It is a little early to say how much the mats will cost, but my gut feeling is it won't be too horrible.
    Maybe on your sever but mine that gear is anything but affordable and dungeon gear is the same ill so there is that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    Maybe on your sever but mine that gear is anything but affordable and dungeon gear is the same ill so there is that too.
    It's not affordable yet, but nothing is in the first week. We can see that the materials are actually obtainable, which is a key ingredient we have not had since 3.05. Give it a few weeks or a month or two and I think we might see some reasonable prices. It's kind of hard to make a good guess at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    It's not affordable yet, but nothing is in the first week. We can see that the materials are actually obtainable, which is a key ingredient we have not had since 3.05. Give it a few weeks or a month or two and I think we might see some reasonable prices. It's kind of hard to make a good guess at this point.
    So you're saying we should wait till close to the patch that make this gear even more irrelevant for it to be more affordable? This is not saving crafting at all if we have to wait till right before the next patch for this stuff to be affordable. That's is a epic failure. Plus the demand is getting shafted for the facts that it's the same ilvl as the new dungeon gear, no materia slots and behind multiple specifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    So you're saying we should wait till close to the patch that make this gear even more irrelevant for it to be more affordable? This is not saving crafting at all if we have to wait till right before the next patch for this stuff to be affordable. That's is a epic failure. Plus the demand is getting shafted for the facts that it's the same ilvl as the new dungeon gear, no materia slots and behind multiple specifications.
    First of all, we don't know how long it will take for affordability. What if it's only 2 weeks?

    Second, I sold a metric crap ton of "irrelevant" i90 gear in 2.55. If the gear is good enough to jump start people into endgame and affordable, it will have its uses. The only way these become completely irrelevant in the next patch is if the next tier of crafted mats is cheap and plentiful enough that there is no longer a budget niche for i185.
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    Jagged Phoenix
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    Coeurl
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    800k is the going rate for this gear on my server unless there is only 1 seller. Then it is up to 2.5mil. The gear gets gatherers into diadem , and sells well for that reason alone. The mats are 100-275k nq-hq. This already has done more sales then i180 had.

    As others have pointed out, it also spirit binds in 1-2 diadem runs for tiv-v materia that also sells quite well.
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    Last edited by Rath; 11-15-2015 at 04:43 AM.

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