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    Syvic Zivota
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    Why so little class tweaks in this patch?

    Only 4 classes are getting some tweaks unless I'm reading the notes wrong and it seems only Nin and Pal are getting actually tweaks. I feel Brd is just a wasted fix in this patch, instead of adjusting the tp cost for aoe skills we get a reduced straight shot with a adjusted timer? Ast gets to keep Royal Road when they leave an area, but the rng of card draws isn't adjusted? Nor is the potency of their skills? I mean these are just two issues I've heard of and experience when I play that should have been looked at. Does the lack of adjustments made to the classes alarm anyone else? Or is it just me?
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    Would it really be necessary to reduce AoE TP costs after Rain of Death got changed? I have 60 BRD and found its AoE already potent enough when multidotting.
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    Myori Mittens
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    They should have increased the duration of Warden's Paean, didnt they say they would look into it? Its kind of weird they didn't, 30 seconds duration with a casting time its rarely worth using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinglybell View Post
    They should have increased the duration of Warden's Paean, didnt they say they would look into it? Its kind of weird they didn't, 30 seconds duration with a casting time its rarely worth using.
    This is the only thing missing right now for BRD... Paean is situational at best, utterly useless and time wasting at worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinglybell View Post
    They should have increased the duration of Warden's Paean, didnt they say they would look into it? Its kind of weird they didn't, 30 seconds duration with a casting time its rarely worth using.
    1 second cast time off the global CD with an MP cost of Esuna sounds fair to me ;D I want this ;-;.
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    You know, I would not have been upset if they made some changes to how Enochian and Astral Fire/Umbral Ice work. More specifically, make it so casting Fire IV/Blizzard IV didn't get interrupted if a buff fell off.

    I've lost so many Enochian buffs because my Blizzard IV just wasn't fast enough to keep up with Enochian/Umbral Ice, and I've lost plenty of Fire IV casts to Astral Fire wearing off due to bullet hell boss fights.
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    I've lost so many Enochian buffs because my Blizzard IV just wasn't fast enough to keep up with Enochian/Umbral Ice, and I've lost plenty of Fire IV casts to Astral Fire wearing off due to bullet hell boss fights.
    Personally, I don't think it needs any changes. Would it be nice? Maybe. Is it necessary? Not at all. I don't particularly enjoy changes that are made simply to make it easier for some players. Sure, it's a little frustrating when the mechanics are against you. But then, BLM has always been about overcoming that.

    Don't start casting Fire IV or Blizzard IV if you see you have <3 seconds on Enochian or Astral/Umbral Ice (and Swiftcast isn't available). Whenever this happens, I usually go with Blizzard III to refill my MP and start over. Learning to track timers and thinking ahead helps to keep your damage going out (which is better than it being cancelled and doing effectively 0 DPS for a few seconds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Would it really be necessary to reduce AoE TP costs after Rain of Death got changed? I have 60 BRD and found its AoE already potent enough when multidotting.
    Changing it to be a little less would be better in my opinion then what is being "fixed" as it is Quick Nock and Wide Volley do the same damage but WV cost more, it's a pointless skill since the changes to RoD. If the skills had a increase in damage then I can see them costing what they did in 2.0, but we have no need for two AoE skills that do the same damage but have different costs.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 11-09-2015 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Changing it to be a little less would be better in my opinion then what is being "fixed" as it is Quick Nock and Wide Volley do the same damage but WV cost more, it's a pointless skill since the changes to RoD. If the skills had a increase in damage then I can see them costing what they did in 2.0, but we have no need for two AoE skills that do the same damage but have different costs.
    Oh true, forgot about that...
    I wish it would get a damage buff. I'd rather not go back to the proc chance (unless they make it a better proc chance than before...make it like 50% to trigger QN or something IDK) but something has to be done since I love the animation but it's useless unless you're very very lazy
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