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    Token System/Subscription

    Similar to another famous MMO. These tokens will be purchased via Mog Station for a full months game time $14.99 or equal to of other countries currencies. Allowing people with real life financial issues to support their game time by playing the game or those having extra money to help support their in game currency issues.

    These tokens will be sold or bought from the MB to add game time to a players subscription time using in game currency.
    This would cut down on the active RMT system we are currently having issues with.

    I'm sure this may have been brought up already but i do not see a Suggestions post on the forum so i figured this would be a good place to put it.
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    Wouldn't work sadly because of all the varying subscription prices

    - legacy
    - # of characters
    - # of retainers

    Not to say it isn't an awesome idea but unless these are Crysta scrolls it won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Not to say it isn't an awesome idea but unless these are Crysta scrolls it won't work.
    As you implied, an item that gives crysta equal to a basic subscription fee would work perfectly. That could be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Wouldn't work sadly because of all the varying subscription prices

    - legacy
    - # of characters
    - # of retainers

    Not to say it isn't an awesome idea but unless these are Crysta scrolls it won't work.
    An awesome idea? You MUST be joking.

    You think having players be able to play the game without PAYING FOR A SUBSCRIPTION is an AWESOME IDEA?!

    What even is this...come on people.

    This is an absolutely terrible idea. It would effectively make the game a "pay for one month sub then never pay again"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    You think having players be able to play the game without PAYING FOR A SUBSCRIPTION is an AWESOME IDEA?!
    Someone always pays. Every subscription, someone paid the $$$ for it. You don't generate tokens out of thin air (or gil, as it were).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Someone always pays. Every subscription, someone paid the $$$ for it. You don't generate tokens out of thin air (or gil, as it were).
    I understand that, but I strongly disagree with the fact that the people who have tons and tons of gil will be playing the game for months and months and even years without paying a single cent for the game. I simply don't like that. This is a sub based mmo and you should have to pay that sub fee to play, that's how I feel about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    I understand that, but I strongly disagree with the fact that the people who have tons and tons of gil will be playing the game for months and months and even years without paying a single cent for the game. I simply don't like that. This is a sub based mmo and you should have to pay that sub fee to play, that's how I feel about this.
    Praytell, why would it even matter if someone actually payed the sub directly or not? You're literally saying that it's a bad idea because you don't like it for no apparent reason. I don't agree or disagree with the idea of these items, as I'd probably never use them, but your argument is ridiculous. At least give an actual reason for why the idea is bad if you want to imply so strongly that it's a factually bad idea.

    Kind of like the below...

    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    Just gonna put this out there. Runescape does this and it's cheaper to buy gold and spend it on your membership than it is to actually buy the membership.

    No support
    This is a good reason to not implement the system. In fact, unless a solution is found, it would turn what could be the biggest boon of the system - reduction in RMT sales and activity - into its biggest bane - an actual increase in RMT sales and activity.

    I know World of Warcraft implemented this shortly after I quit the game. I wonder how it worked out for them.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 11-09-2015 at 07:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Someone always pays. Every subscription, someone paid the $$$ for it. You don't generate tokens out of thin air (or gil, as it were).
    this, in wow the ppl playing with token are actually a +5 dllr sub price boost for blizz since the token is more expensive than the monthly sub.

    It is a pretty interesting system for the whole time vs money dilemma for players while taking a big bite back at RMT activity. As to whether it would work for FF 14, i honestly don't know since we also have to keep other cultures in mind. Even within wow the market for said tokens is apparently drastically different between regions, which may of may not be a negative....I honestly don't know.
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    Last edited by Gumbercules; 11-09-2015 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Wouldn't work sadly because of all the varying subscription prices

    - legacy
    - # of characters
    - # of retainers
    What does number of character have to do with anything? You not charged for extra characters unless you talking about the entry level sub vs standard sub which still doesn't matter cause I would assume it would work the same way as time cards do. As for the rest as said before I would assume it would work the same way as time cards. It would cover your base sub not including extras and well if you were legacy you either could choose this option and pay a higher price (like existing time cards) or leave you account unchanged and continue to pay how you already are doing. So you saying it won't work is not true, would just simply be another version of a time card.
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    Last edited by Lexia; 11-09-2015 at 10:13 AM.

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    We already have something not unlike this in time cards. For it to work as an in-game item, though, would have required it's presence in the game from the beginning. Eve's model works because it was there from the beginning, it was one of the game's selling points to get players into the game. If they were to introduce that in the game now it would be so overpriced as to be out of reach of those that'd use it. Then there's the RMT. The reason RMT never took off on Eve is the game's other core mechanic, open world PvP. Because the markets are local and almost everything is an item if you wanted to sell your time tokens you had to 'physically' move it to market. But between the hub systems there's areas where pvp can go unpenalized making moving something like time tokens a high risk endeavor. There's no such risk here. I can buy an HQ piece of high demand armor, travel from Gridania to Limsa Lominsa and noone would be the wiser. RMT could easily start selling time tokens, real or scam.
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