More Rewards for Harder Content?

[Gardes]

"People like you?" Really?

lol you're talking to someone who claimed to love challenging content but has never cleared any coil fights beyond t4, cleared most ex primals only 1 month before expansion launch and even then hasn't cleared some of them too. I was looking for someone's post where he was admitting to being a terrible bard (it was hers) and I even found her chastising someone for not going for bis pieces when that someone mentioned he is in full tome gear. Which is hilarious when you consider when this person dodged coil hard for most of her xiv life.

Even if you somehow managed to entice someone like this with items that she wants, she would most likely find some other excuse to dodge doing the content regardless of who she parties with and you probably wouldn't want to do it with her anyway, since she's most likely ill prepared.

[Alex_Lenderson]

lol you're talking to someone who claimed to love challenging content but has never cleared any coil fights beyond t4, cleared most ex primals only 1 month before expansion launch and even then hasn't cleared some of them too. I was looking for someone's post where he was admitting to being a terrible bard (it was hers) and I even found her chastising someone for not going for bis pieces when that someone mentioned he is in full tome gear. Which is hilarious when you consider when this person dodged coil hard for most of her xiv life.

Even if you somehow managed to entice someone like this with items that she wants, she would most likely find some other excuse to dodge doing the content regardless of who she parties with and you probably wouldn't want to do it with her anyway, since she's most likely ill prepared.

LOL... wow I don't even have words.

[ChazNatlo]

at least the raid gears should look better than Alex and Void Ark gears.

They can't give better looking gear for harder challenges because "better looking" is subjective. I wouldn't mind different looking gear though.

[Blood-Aki]

They can't give better looking gear for harder challenges because "better looking" is subjective. I wouldn't mind different looking gear though.

I don't even care if the gear is ugly to my tastes, but it's insulting to have different gear with the same look. you can't look at someone with a gordian AS4 body and assume it's the A4 one, you have to actually check them.. or they look exactly the same as someone who has never touched savage. they had no issues with coil gear. why did they get lazy about now i wonder.

[Gilraen]

lol you're talking to someone who claimed to love challenging content but has never cleared any coil fights beyond t4, cleared most ex primals only 1 month before expansion launch and even then hasn't cleared some of them too.

I will freely admit to my sloth, but sloth is not an indication of lack of desire. I'm just not obsessed enough in the game to play it for hours on end burning myself out. I could also care less about how others feel about my play style and so long as things get done and it was fun it's fine by me. Call it apathy or indifference, but that's how I am. My only pet peeve in this game are people who quit without trying again. Sometimes you just need a bit of a do over to get past a particularly tough fight. If people had played such games as XI or any of the older Korean MMOs I feel there'd be more patience in the community.

[zosia]

I will freely admit to my sloth, but sloth is not an indication of lack of desire. I'm just not obsessed enough in the game to play it for hours on end burning myself out. I could also care less about how others feel about my play style and so long as things get done and it was fun it's fine by me. Call it apathy or indifference, but that's how I am. My only pet peeve in this game are people who quit without trying again. Sometimes you just need a bit of a do over to get past a particularly tough fight. If people had played such games as XI or any of the older Korean MMOs I feel there'd be more patience in the community.

So, then you at least care enough =p

I played ff11 for years and that game is a sorry comparison if you are talking about patience. People were just as ruthless and demanding in that game's endgame as any other MMO.

[Alex_Lenderson]

My point is they don't seem to do a good job of providing reward choices other than glamour and ilevels. Give harder content that requires teamwork something different. Be creative!

[Nekodar]

Putting more rewards into those now would just result in people screaming "stop forcing us to run outdated content"... like have happened every time they have tried to revitalize something that's fallen out of fashion.

[Cherie]

What hardcore MMOs are there? I've yet to ever see one.

I guess those games where you do nothing but grind all the time might be "hardcore"? I played "aion" though, it just got old pretty quick. Maybe they can make a "hardcore" version of this game where you get xp like 100x slower and can spend three weeks in satasha normal trying to level. That would be a hardcore MMO.

I'm not sure what anyone is asking when they say they want this game to be harder. Didn't the live letter say that only half of the player base beat alexander normal (correct me if I'm wrong)? I don't believe anyone considers alexander normal hardcore. I think SE probably had the difficulty level set fairly appropriate for the players in the majority. People that want a harder game play something else.

Personally I'd like some more challenges too if that's what this thread is about. Having that mount in a4s was a good start. It's fairly unusual of SE to put some vanity item at the end of content that the masses won't ever complete. A step in the right direction I guess. I suppose you could count the fenrir mount in there too (though I'm not sure how difficult people consider the gold saucer).

[Alex_Lenderson]

Putting more rewards into those now would just result in people screaming "stop forcing us to run outdated content"... like have happened every time they have tried to revitalize something that's fallen out of fashion.

Probably ex rav has less than 20% of the population clearing it at this point. (We only have 50% who cleared Alex normal!)