FFXIV has an endgame problem and it needs to be changed

[Craiger]

The root of the problem is the development staff being too small...

Yoshi-P even said in the latest interview, that he would like to have 3 different difficulties on the raids, but they can't because of having too little staff... so now we're probably gonna go back to the old difficulty, and all hardcore raiders will be pissed and quit the game.

We shouldn't even have a Normal version of the raids though, it ruins things for the players that actually like raiding... Then have some other easier raid with different story for them. Or even better, have the same raid "area", but different bosses etc, so you get additional story from the Savage version. Then the other players will have to do the savage raids when they get easier if they must experience all story. It could parallel story lines every progression patch.


Whatever route they take with 3.2+, at least one demographic in the game will be pissed. Hardcore players might be the minority, but we need them to keep a healthy community.

[SchalaZeal]

it took many hours, and each time i did it with them, it was enjoyable !!!
i remember spending soooo nice time with my friend !!

Scheduling 6 hours straight on multiple evenings a week on hypothetical fights you might not even get to see (because someone else claims it) is not my idea of fun. If everyone can claim it (and not lock it out of the hands of others) like the exploratory, sure, but then not 6 hours straight, either. I'm the only person in the FC who even could be there 6 hours straight in any regularity (others might some days, not others, no scheduling).

[anguel]

Scheduling 6 hours straight on multiple evenings a week on hypothetical fights you might not even get to see (because someone else claims it) is not my idea of fun.

oh so for you grinding dungeon like a pure "no-brain" is your definition of "fun" ?

probly, someone else could claim the sayd boss, but THAT it what made the game fun, explosion of joy !!, or even infuriating ...
it gave some challenge,
and ppl with best organisation won
(and on the server where i was, we agreed with other LS on schedule not to disturb other ppl, farming time)


and you say lock 6hrs, BUT GOD, DO WE EVEN HAVE SOMETHING WORSE SPENDING 6HRS ON ENDGAME CONTENT ATM ????????
let me answear for you,

NO !!!
(and dont mention the zeta weapon, because those are already USELESS !!!)

[Reaperking386]

oh so for you grinding dungeon like a pure "no-brain" is your definition of "fun" ?

probly, someone else could claim the sayd boss, but THAT it what made the game fun, explosion of joy !!, or even infuriating ...
it gave some challenge,
and ppl with best organisation won
(and on the server where i was, we agreed with other LS on schedule not to disturb other ppl, farming time)


and you say lock 6hrs, BUT GOD, DO WE EVEN HAVE SOMETHING WORSE SPENDING 6HRS ON ENDGAME CONTENT ATM ????????
let me answear for you,

NO !!!
(and dont mention the zeta weapon, because those are already USELESS !!!)

Play 11 then. idk what to tell you. Square is not going to change a formula that is more profitable than 11.

[Cybralisk]

Play 11 then. idk what to tell you. Square is not going to change a formula that is more profitable than 11.

FFXI had an amazing endgame, that kept people playing for years. FFXIV has an endgame set on repeat that people are already complaining about. Farm the same two dungeons over and over, cap tomes for gear. reset in 3 months and do it again for gear with slightly higher of the same boring stats. The raids are useless, no point beating your face on savage alexander when the gear is the same stuff you can get with eso currency with a different look.

[Reaperking386]

FFXI had an amazing endgame, that kept people playing for years. FFXIV has an endgame set on repeat that people are already complaining about. Farm the same two dungeons over and over, cap tomes for gear. reset in 3 months and do it again for gear with slightly higher of the same boring stats. The raids are useless, no point beating your face on savage alexander when the gear is the same stuff you can get with eso currency with a different look.

Go to World of Warcraft and see that they had their content on repeat as much as ff14, except worse. They have been 10 times more successful than 11 ever could be, so this formula obviously does work despite how people feel about it. 11 was a good game for its time, but the consumers have changed and hardcore raiding is no longer appealing. no one wants to waste their time on possible fights anymore, no one wants to spend 18 hrs on a boss fight, no one wants to spend 7 hrs a day just to get a few levels or break a level cap that could take them weeks. I understand you want something challenging like 11, but those days are over. It is time to move on man. No one has the time anymore to set aside their life for a video game, but that is why 11 still is exist. Square does care still of the hardcore player. This is just a different game.

[anguel]

Play 11 then. idk what to tell you.

already playing it