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    Just like many issues this game has if it is going to actually cost the dev team time and resources to fix, just think of it on the back burner until the community tolerance for it reaches a boiling point.

    Just look at housing they continue to bandaid the system they shoved out the door broken and have yet to even do anything significant about it.

    1. Instead of releasing it as a seperate content as planned they just flipped the switch to let solo players buy the FC plots.
    2. Instead of doing anything they have just added a decay timer to the current housing system.

    Until they do something significant about the housing problem I doubt we will see anything else get fixed unless it requires no real effort on their side.
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    look. they're going to bleed us dry before they give us retainers for free. they dont care. they know that we're not gonna stop playing if this doesn't get fixed.
    It's even more obvious that this is the case seeing as there is an actual solution give to us by them, "buy retainers", but its hidden behind having to pay extra. It's not a matter of "it can't be done" but "we don't want to do it for free"
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    Rather than just more space, I'd rather see some of the systems that have popped up in other games added to FF14 to actually solve the inventory issue instead of just delaying it by adding more slots.

    Guild Wars 2's crafting component inventory should be a genre standard, and a proper cosmetic appearance/armour system instead of just glamouring should be a priority (and could still be cash shop compatible if SE wants it that way).
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    There are ways to ease up on the stranglehold on the inventory. One that doesn't even require actually adding more slots to everyone. Too bad that instead of focusing on these "passive" solutions, they seem to be much busier flooding us with even more items (and I don't even mean the actual gear sets here).
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    The funny thing about inventory space is that no matter how much of it you have, people will always want more. FFXIV is incredibly generous with inventory space compared to many games that I've played. In FFXI, you didn't have an armory chest. All of your gear, for all of your jobs, was in your gobbie bag or not at all. That bag could be upgraded to a maximum of 80 spaces! Now we not only have a 100 space inventory, but an armory chest with 25 slots per item! The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already.

    That's not to say I don't have inventory troubles. I'm a crafter. My inventory is almost always packed full of materials, finished works or catalysts for repairs and melds. I'm constantly battling against the struggle. But I realise that it's not the fault of the system, it's a fault of how I play the game. And I know better than anyone that if I had a bigger inventory, I'd just find new ways to fill it back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The funny thing about inventory space is that no matter how much of it you have, people will always want more. FFXIV is incredibly generous with inventory space compared to many games that I've played. In FFXI, you didn't have an armory chest. All of your gear, for all of your jobs, was in your gobbie bag or not at all. That bag could be upgraded to a maximum of 80 spaces! Now we not only have a 100 space inventory, but an armory chest with 25 slots per item! The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already.
    Don't just compare inventory size to another inventory size. Take a look at the number of storable items vs the number of inventory slots - and compare that ratio. Gives a much more accurate picture. In FFXIV, last I heard we have about 7000 items that can potentially go in the inventory - right now, or with 3.1, I'm not sure; the .1 content patches add about 500-700 items, the guy said in the live letter, I think? (And don't forget that the "every job on one character" thing is not really common either, as far as I know.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Don't just compare inventory size to another inventory size. Take a look at the number of storable items vs the number of inventory slots - and compare that ratio. Gives a much more accurate picture. In FFXIV, last I heard we have about 7000 items that can potentially go in the inventory - right now, or with 3.1, I'm not sure; the .1 content patches add about 500-700 items, the guy said in the live letter, I think? (And don't forget that the "every job on one character" thing is not really common either, as far as I know.)
    But how many of those items that we would actually need in our inventory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already.
    It really isn't, considering that alts aren't supposed to be necessary. That means you should be able to store all your crafting items and all your gear one character. To access this many classes and crafts in WoW for example, I'd probably be using most of my 11 alts.
    The storage at the inn is just bizarre, hardly anything seems to go in it and retainer storage is limited unless you buy more. I'm forever trying to make space in my bags and even now at level 51, I'm having issues with the armoury.

    Perhaps FFXI was less generous, but that doesn't make the provision we have here ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The funny thing about inventory space is that no matter how much of it you have, people will always want more. FFXIV is incredibly generous with inventory space compared to many games that I've played. In FFXI, you didn't have an armory chest. All of your gear, for all of your jobs, was in your gobbie bag or not at all. That bag could be upgraded to a maximum of 80 spaces! Now we not only have a 100 space inventory, but an armory chest with 25 slots per item! The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already..

    Just no....


    Inventary is ridiculously small taking in to account that we can have all those diferent classes.

    Taking in to account the ridiculous amount of tokens that this game have. Taking in to account the ridiculous amount of diferent things that you need to glamour diferent things.


    It's really really small.


    And the retainers system is probably the less confortable system for storage management that has ever being invented.

    For god's sake, I've being playing in user made Neverwinter Nights ( (This one, not the useless new one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights ) persistent worlds, and they had a far more confortable system to store items outside of a character.

    Retainers are unconfortable and slow.

    I don't really want more retainers. I want just a new inventory system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The funny thing about inventory space is that no matter how much of it you have, people will always want more. FFXIV is incredibly generous with inventory space compared to many games that I've played. In FFXI, you didn't have an armory chest. All of your gear, for all of your jobs, was in your gobbie bag or not at all. That bag could be upgraded to a maximum of 80 spaces! Now we not only have a 100 space inventory, but an armory chest with 25 slots per item! The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already.
    Other games also offer ways to get more inventory space that don't require paying a monthly cash micro-sub for them. In WoW it's bigger bags in your inventory and bank + void storage, In Aion, it's an expanded cube (and crafters get an even bigger inventory than everyone else on top of that). To my knowledge, most other mmo's also only have you playing one class, which would probably have 3-4 actual gear sets max anyway (depending on spec system, if there is one) so there's less need for space for that particular set of items that the armory chest (mostly) handles here.

    Here, the inventory is bigger because it almost has to be. There are 23 classes in this game, and the more you play, the more slots get taken up by alt class gear - not to mention crafting mats and consumables and whatever else people like to keep.

    This game has a limited-size inventory that stays static while the amount of items in the game does not...unless you're willing to pay even more cash. That's something I'm frankly not a fan of at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dukeun View Post
    Reading these topics always baffle me, but I would really like to know what everyone is keeping so they have no room at all. I have all my classes to 50+, but dark and mch, and every one of them have a full set of gear allocated to them. I have 4 retainers (one for each gathering, and one combat), 2 have nothing but mats on it the other two have gear that I may use once my classes reach whatever level/glamour, but the biggest bulk of it is food and holiday crap that I'll never need. The only stuff I carry on me is stuff I actually use, resting anywhere from 80-90 out of 100 slots free.
    I only have 2 retainers, for one. One is full of crafting mats, the other is full of alt class gear and glamour. Honestly most of it is glamour. I also have food, potions, tokens that for some reason take up inventory space, holiday furniture, and old law gear that I can't do anything with yet. I have some gear on me because it won't fit on the retainers anymore. :/
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