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  1. #91
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    They keep saying that cant do it.

    Though they said same thing in FFXI also and look how much space was given, so I hardly believe they can't do it.

    Though it is a different game and they are the experts so no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    when has inventory space(or lack thereof) EVER been associated with ps3? By an actual SE employee, not one of the mindless pc masterrace drones. Yes, ps3 has some negative effects to this game but seriously stop placing Every.single.problem on it. No, it's not PS3 holding inventory space back. It's Yoshi-P and his team. They would rather people buy extra retainers for 2.00/month than actually give us an extension to inventory. Don't try to color it any other way.
    Why are you so peeved about a small part of my post? But regardless, it's just what I've heard on Reddit, these forums, etc. If you want to sift through every live letter, every forum post, and whatever else be my guest. If the PS3 can't even manage a TP bar with numbers, I'm not going to believe it can manage more inventory either.

    I read that the rent a retainer service was added a day after the glamour system was added... cough conspiracy cough

    That 15 second backup timer is flat out absurd, no other MMO does it. I'm starting to believe it's nothing more than a lie, if Yoshida was a sane man he'd realize that 15 seconds is far too much to backup data.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Other games also offer ways to get more inventory space that don't require paying a monthly cash micro-sub for them. In WoW it's bigger bags in your inventory and bank + void storage.
    That's a bit of a misconception - in WoW you start out with extremely limited inventory space (16 bag slots, and another 28 at your bank), and the biggest bags right now will run you around 1000 gold each to buy (30 slots, need 11 total between your inventory bag slots and your bank...so 11,000 gold)...

    And the net result, with the reagent bank and void storage...is around 550 inventory slots. Some of those, like void storage, you have to pay to put things in, every time you put something in.

    FFXIV from the start gives you 100 inventory slots plus 300 (that's 12x25 for all but the Job Crystal set) total in the Armory Chest...and another 75 slots just for quest items even though we never, ever have that many quest items.

    Throw in the retainers you get at level 17 at no extra charge, and you're sitting at around 200 inventory slots more on a single character without spending any micro-sub than is achievable on a single character in WoW, even with the most expensive bags.

    Inventory management is certainly less of a hassle in that game (and about to become even more user friendly with some of their upcoming changes), but getting bigger bags and the bank + void storage are actually worse than what we get in terms of inventory slots.
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    All I gotta say is that out of my main's void storage and bank, 6 of the 7 bags in her bank have gear, much of it holiday crap. Her void storage has 2 slots open in it....

    And that's just my main. The main bank part is currently holding stuff I'm stashing for expansion for an alt I'm making... but other than that, if it's not soulbound, it's not on her.

    The new transmog changes can't come fast enough.

    Here? I just.. don't hold on to stuff. I can't afford to.

    The reason it works there is that you have one class on one character.

    Here, I have 12 jobs, each has a set of gear, and each has unique stuff I use for glamour, some of which is job specific...

    it adds up and is even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    That's a bit of a misconception - in WoW you start out with extremely limited inventory space (16 bag slots, and another 28 at your bank), and the biggest bags right now will run you around 1000 gold each to buy (30 slots, need 11 total between your inventory bag slots and your bank...so 11,000 gold)...

    And the net result, with the reagent bank and void storage...is around 550 inventory slots. Some of those, like void storage, you have to pay to put things in, every time you put something in.

    FFXIV from the start gives you 100 inventory slots plus 300 (that's 12x25 for all but the Job Crystal set) total in the Armory Chest...and another 75 slots just for quest items even though we never, ever have that many quest items.

    Throw in the retainers you get at level 17 at no extra charge, and you're sitting at around 200 inventory slots more on a single character without spending any micro-sub than is achievable on a single character in WoW, even with the most expensive bags.

    Inventory management is certainly less of a hassle in that game (and about to become even more user friendly with some of their upcoming changes), but getting bigger bags and the bank + void storage are actually worse than what we get in terms of inventory slots.
    It was more of an oversimplification than a misconception. I went more into detail in my next post in the thread on page 7.

    My point was that, while WoW's base inventory space is extremely limited, Blizzard offered a way to add more (permanent) space in game that does not require any additional cash to be spent on top of the sub. They have added bigger bags, added new storage systems (void storage/reagent bank), consolidated items, increased stack sizes, removed unnecessary inventory clutter (arrows, reagents, etc.), and are now adding yet another system to reduce the amount of stuff you need to hold on to (if you want it for whatever reason) with those upcoming changes. I believe that whether those solutions and systems are better or worse than what we have here is largely subjective. Either way, they are actively working to fix the problem.

    This game does not. You have to effectively increase your own sub cost to get more space. There are no other solutions - or no concrete news of them being implemented, at any rate (unless I've missed something). That's what I don't like.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 11-09-2015 at 03:28 PM.

  6. #96
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Void storage is essentially a list of item ids. You pull out an itemm, it generates a completely new item. That's why it loses all modification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Void storage is essentially a list of item ids. You pull out an itemm, it generates a completely new item. That's why it loses all modification.
    And according to Yoshida with his response to the glamour log, that takes exactly the same amount of data more inventory space would. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  8. #98
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    We really need 1 extra retainer added for everyone who bought the expansion. Either that or stop renting them and actually sell them. Or add a way to save glamours without having to keep the items like many other games do.
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    3.15,

    i count new tokens :
    4 from alex
    5 from tribal
    4 from exchange alex or tribal (bones etc)
    4 tokens for the Anima weapon

    maybe time to give us a real TOKEN BAG please ?
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    I thought it was 5 from beast tribes? 4 2.X beast tribes + Vanu.
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