Thread: 4.0 Where will we go? what class (or classes) will be added

I feel like they should really redo some of the jobs from the ground-up before deciding adding new ones for every role. Specifically BRD and MCH (when compared to each other) and PLD if they don't address the tank dps thing well enough in 3.2.

Different content types like 4-man "savage" difficulties or a more dynamic environment (at least something that changes per patch cycle) would be nice too.

Originally Posted by Riardon

Yoshi already said recently that the Holy Trinity DPS/DPS/DPS is here to stay for a long long loooong time. Do not expect buffer/support classes any time soon if not ever.

FTFY. On subject, I think we'll go to Ala Mhigo, as it is the last Eorzean land left unexplored.

As for classes, I'd bet on SAM, RDM (or BLM. Either way, a mage) and dancer (but that's just my wishful thinking on this last one).

Originally Posted by Nominous

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...swered_an_ign/

It's been said that ARR was designed with a 2/2/2/2 role requirement in mind (2 Tanks/2 DPS/2 Healers/2 Hybrid). There's more places to find information on the specific interview, but basically it was an answer in reply to why we have an 8 person setup for end-game, as opposed to maybe 10 or something more traditional. He's also said that he wanted to let people learn how to play the game for the first couple of expansions, but after those, he wanted to change up the battle system in a major way. To me this alludes to the hybrid roles, getting rid of the class/job system so we have only Jobs (you see this with the ones they just added), changing up how cross-classing works or removing it altogether, etc etc. So I wouldn't say to not expect anything anytime soon. 2.0 and 3.0 is about as long as I'd expect them to give people to learn the basics of the game before they start switching things up in a way that won't hurt the playerbase too much.

Also, the dev team is flip-flopping on a lot of ideas right now. Healers DPS 'requirements', the state of end-game and how they truly want it balanced for, Tank DPS, all kinds of stuff. They'll get it eventually, but this is the time to experiment, because you don't want them doing that once they game is hyper established.

oh dear, I so hope they rework this entire mess we have now and make something great for 4.0.

Heck, I'd even happily wait for 5.0 if they can get rid of that can of worms we have right now while they are testing stuff.

4.0 will have swimming and no invisible walls

Originally Posted by Tyrius

I was hoping for a mage type of DPS we have so much physical DPS right now and only 2 magic damage dealers in SMH and BLM yet we have 2 ranged physical damage dealers as well as 3 melee physical damage dealers we need more fire and explosions!!!!!

I'd quite like;

Red Mage - melee based mage DPS, combo with swords, applies DoTs with magic (Dia?), perhaps direct damage spell like Banish, makes sense for them to have Cure too, melee ability to do damage based on DoTs (basically Fester, but Fencer...).
Dancer - Exactly what is was in Final Fantasy XI, just play up the healing is it's actually as solid as White Mage et al.
Blue Mage - mage based tank, with a counter mechanic that basically takes whatever you get hit by, and turns that into an attack for you.

As for the location... Thavnairia, that place was mentioned long before Doma (plus Doma was completely destroyed IIRC), and the Alchemist quest even has a nice little reference to Blue Mage in it, with a certain Thavnairian Alchemist...

Really want Samurai as well though... Just Red Mage (melee mage DPS), Dancer (melee healer), Blue Mage (mage tank) is far more interesting. Samurai would either be another melee DPS or melee tank, and we've got plenty of those already... If SE wants to get people trying different roles, they should try switching up the playstyle with something like a melee based healer...