I don't want to tank dungeons anymore...

[Lihtleita]

On an opposite note, had a tank refuse to move forward after someone from an old FC and I asked, just wondering, why he decided to start pulls with provoke...

provoke has a longer range (5 yalms I think?) than shield lob/tomahawk/whatever, as long as you follow it up with actual aggro management pulling like this is fine in dungeons

edit: but the guy was a dick when its an understandable question, this is not how provoke was used in hw/sb

[RayneBoemir]

If you hate them so much why do them at all?

I do like them that doesn’t mean I want to be in there more than necessary there are many things to do, it’s ok though I tank my own dungeons.

[RayneBoemir]

Stuff like this is why I really cut back on group content. That sort of mentality really drains me imo. I enjoy wall to wall tanking but people can't seem to realize that not every dungeon is built to do that. I'm not even exclusively a tank but I always let out an audible sigh when I see dps and healers pull ahead because then I worry that the group is about to devolve into a s**tshow because the dps couldn't kill the group fast enough, the healers couldn't keep up, or the tank not realizing they have more buttons than their 123 combo. All I have to say is if they game is such a slog you have to speed through group content then why are you playing in the first place?

It’s not that it’s a slog plenty of players have other things to do like for example right now leveling crafters and gatherers, and tons of other things that I don’t even have time for.

[RayneBoemir]

Oh and going fast is more fun for me than going slow.

At the end of the day your job is to hold hate on all enemies and use your cooldowns. Just like at the end of the day a healer’s job is to heal to their best ability anything.

You can well damn expect for me to try to save that idiot who keeps standing on crap for the 15th time or tanking anything the other players pull because that’s my role in the game depending on what class I am playing I don’t cry about it I just do it.

[RayneBoemir]

As a healer, I accept both. I really enjoy the fast, smooth runs as much as anyone else - but - some tanks are new to the role, job or the game, are still learning and/or are just slower at it. I am forgiving of them as well. I wish more would be because there have been times in the DF groups and/or runs have broken up because of this and I have felt bad for the tank.

It's part of the reason - maybe the main reason - that even though I want to tank and have leveled all three to some degree, I haven't brought any into a dungeon and possibly never will. Going from a healer there is a lot to learn switching over to tanking. I watch tanks a lot given my role, but there's a ton more to tanking then just knowing your rotation and the grief you get on DF has totally put me off from trying to learn it. No room is allowed to learn that role anymore. My hat's off to you for hanging in there.

You’ll never get the confidence to do wall to wall pulls if you never try.

[RayneBoemir]

Funny thing I found is a good amount of these people who constantly pull early don't have a tank leveled. I think if more people did try tanking they would realize the stress and such it puts on people. Kinda works in the same way of jobs in the real world, if you ever worked as a waiter/waitress, you know the stress that comes with the job and are more likely to respect those people who actually seem like they are trying compared to those who just say "They need to hurry..." when the place is slammed busy and you've only been waiting like 2 minutes.

What stress?

[Vav2021]

Each time I get in heavensward's dungeons, a dps or more ofter the healer (yeah the healer) just go foward and pull the mobs before me. I tell them not to, they get mad and start blabbering things like he doesn't have time for this and I should be pulling more. I am not a bad tank, in fact, I usually don't have issue with more bobs at once.

My point is I should be the one getting them and not the others just because they want ultra fast clear. I like taking time and not having a cluster hell in front of me. Why people needs to always be super fast with everythings and not actually enjoy the game? Playing a game or a MMO shouldn't be at any time a chore.

Peoples seems to forget that video games is for fun, not stats/numbers.

Here's an idea that I did a while ago when I was tanking in WoW.

I had a chat macro ready that said in party chat something along these lines:

"Hello! I'm your tank! I will be doing the tanking! Please give me a second or two to get the attention of the monster(s). WARNING: If you pull a monster or a boss instead of me, you WILL be the one that tanks it.

You pull it, you tank it.

I made it in such a way that at the click of a button on my action bar, I could get it across to the party members that I am in no mood of competing aggro with DPS, and I also told them that if they are the ones to pull it, I will not pick up aggro, and they're the ones to tank it.

Now, I didn't do that to be mean. It was a cause and affect thing. Needless to say, we'd only really ever wipe once, and every time after that was folks being understandably new to mechanics.


I guess where i'm going with this is to make a macro to explain the rules, but it's extremely important that you add in "You pull it you tank it."

[Saraide]

Here's an idea that I did a while ago when I was tanking in WoW.

I had a chat macro ready that said in party chat something along these lines:

I made it in such a way that at the click of a button on my action bar, I could get it across to the party members that I am in no mood of competing aggro with DPS, and I also told them that if they are the ones to pull it, I will not pick up aggro, and they're the ones to tank it.

Now, I didn't do that to be mean. It was a cause and affect thing. Needless to say, we'd only really ever wipe once, and every time after that was folks being understandably new to mechanics.


I guess where i'm going with this is to make a macro to explain the rules, but it's extremely important that you add in "You pull it you tank it."

Or you can stop behaving like a petty child on a power trip, accept that other people are not your slaves and just grab aggro with one single button because how you play tank does not change in any way if you are against 3 mobs or 30.

[Vav2021]

Or you can stop behaving like a petty child on a power trip, accept that other people are not your slaves and just grab aggro with one single button because how you play tank does not change in any way if you are against 3 mobs or 30.

I apologize that you see it that way, and hope that you come to understand it in the future.

[DixieBellOCE]

Very simple solution.

Wall to wall every pull.

Don't let the 'im the tank' ego take over your mentality and just play efficiently for everyone in the party.