What does exploration mean to you?

[Kurogaea]

The objectives list is 100% optional from what I understand. It's mainly for bonuses, and not like dungeon objectives which are mandatory

As I said before, it's entirely optional and exists to give players a goal for those who want a goal. Don't want to follow it? Don't, simple as that.

The game is optio--the whole mode is optional

Look I see what you guys are saying, but think reeeaallly hard. If those options were not there we'd actually have more of a reason to "explore". These are new places for us, why spoil the adventure with side quests right at the very beginning!? Don't you want to be surprised? Challenged by unspeakable odds? I seen a monster named Gigadeathtoyourface, I'd be scared s#%$less, but oh....the name is in the sidebar over there. Get it?

[Colorful]

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I get where you're coming from, but I disagree entirely. You talk like this sidebar shows a video of every little corner of the area, every boss, every monster, it does not. All it shows is a name, that's literally it. Are you going to tell me that it telling you to catch fish has ruined it for you now? What about harvesting items or examining crystals? Those doesn't change the sense of exploration in the slightest, and it's highly likely that the monsters on the sidebar are going to be common mobs, not the super rare Gigadeathtoyourface. These are not telling you where to find these mobs, so you're exploring to find them, "get it"? I think you need to reevaluate your entire post, people find a way to complain about literally everything don't they?

[Kurogaea]

I get where you're coming from, but I disagree entirely. You talk like this sidebar shows a video of every little corner of the area, every boss, every monster, it does not. All it shows is a name, that's literally it. Are you going to tell me that it telling you to catch fish has ruined it for you now? What about harvesting items or examining crystals? Those doesn't change the sense of exploration in the slightest, and it's highly likely that the monsters on the sidebar are going to be common mobs, not the super rare Gigadeathtoyourface. These are not telling you where to find these mobs, so you're exploring to find them, "get it"? I think you need to reevaluate your entire post, people find a way to complain about literally everything don't they?

Lol of course I think it ruins it. Its not the worst and completely dis-likable, but its definitely not a genuine exploration adventure now is it? If gave you a map to (idk) Dravanian backlands, and told you you can discover new creatures and materials never seen before....and then put the key things you will find on the side of the map.... Do you get it? I'm not trying to be a d%#$ to you, but to anyone else wanting a grand experience in this game or even the whole concept of exploring, then this would be a first step. Right now it looks like they stepped on a pebble and broke their soles. Just hoping they repair or replace em.

Gonna ignore that little thing at the end, you don't seem to happy about those wanting a better game experience in their monthly subscription game. X) -peace-

[kuma_aus]

Lol of course I think it ruins it. Its not the worst and completely dis-likable, but its definitely not a genuine exploration adventure now is it? If gave you a map to (idk) Dravanian backlands, and told you you can discover new creatures and materials never seen before....and then put the key things you will find on the side of the map.... Do you get it? I'm not trying to be a d%#$ to you, but to anyone else wanting a grand experience in this game or even the whole concept of exploring, then this would be a first step. Right now it looks like they stepped on a pebble and broke their soles. Just hoping they repair or replace em.

Gonna ignore that little thing at the end, you don't seem to happy about those wanting a better game experience in their monthly subscription game. X) -peace-

Where are they putting key things on the side of the map? Look again at the list. If it was a key thing, like a HNM, it wouldn't say to kill 5 of them.

Here is the exact same list in terms of The Dravanian Forelands so it's easy to see just how "exploration killing" this list is.

Wind Currents discovered: 0/3

Slay Feather Fleas: 0/5
Slay Bandersnatch: 0/3
Discover treasure chests: 0/8
Examine a vista: 0/1
Log or harvest items: 0/16
Catch fish: 0/8

If the new exploration map was The Dravanian Forelands, would a list like this really ruin the exploration for you?

[Kurogaea]

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Well for one, your reading to deep in my words. "Key things" I meant as just things you find in that area specifically that you can find.

Two....Its not Dravanian Forelands its the Backlands, what's that have to do with anything?? Saying Backlands means its the outside areas of Dravania meaning you won't see the same thing. Clarify if if you made a mistake or not because I wasn't sure what you were saying. I'm guessing those likes mean someone else got it too so let me know.

OOPS EDITED: Oh ok I read that wrong, and actually yeah. It would ruin it for me. Saying what I'm going to see, what I can find, the number of rewards I can be given is a bit of a downer for me. But of course, that would be implying that exploring a main story area and a instanced exploration voyage is one and the same, and they're not. This is an area not known by anyone and we just got there, I don't want to see this, yeah I can hide, but it won't stop my teammates from going "I gotta find that bandersnatch" and I'm left with hunting and gathering rather than discovery and a morsel of excitement that should've been there. Not saying I won't have fun, it'll be there I'm sure, its just like I said, another bit of content with un-tapped potential.