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    Mayoyama Nakata
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    So much for not releasing information affecting market boards early...

    A couple patches ago SE promised that they would no longer release information about crafting/recipes/etc that would cause price gouging on the market board ahead of time....

    Yet, the information that was released in the 3.1 notes, regarding the increase to availability of items from favor trade ins, has lead to the prices of land/leaf/sea bourne aether sands to skyrocket from around 20-40k each up to 170-230k each.. for NQ.... in one day

    Why was this information released early? By the time I was even aware the preliminary notes were out it was already too late and the market board had been cleaned out
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    So you're complaining because you could not take advantage of the situation?
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    Honestly, it makes no difference when the information is released, one way or another the one online to receive the info when it first is seen will take advantage of it, that will never change. You will never be able to make everyone happy unless you make it where old items/materials are worthless in upcoming patches but then there be no point holding onto useless mats that will no longer be used.

    The Price increase in items is much like a stock market, when something is said to be doing good, prices will rise, when no longer it lowers. In same way with info that is seen players are aware those items are going to be used more cause now there is more use for them but in turn as much as that is true, it could also be easier to obtain those items, we don't know yet, Exploration could have those sands and then those people who horded to make a quick buck might find themselves with less money.

    The other thing that isn't being taken to account is a lot of people stopped farming aethersand because of the price, because it wasn't needed as much, but now that more mats are going to be accessible for crafting more people will start to gather it again, if they haven't started gathering already so odds are the price may end up going back to where it started or a little higher but it quite honestly depends on the demand compared to the new amount of people gathering those sands.
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    In agreement with mayoyama

    The problem isn't whether or not someone is going to take advantage or not, the issue is that SE have gone and done something which blatantly goes against a promise that they made at an eariler date. Yes people will take advantage of information, it is justified that they do so, but only if they do so AFTER the patch releases. releasing it any earlier it puts people into awkward situations and sends the market board into economical flux before it needs to be.
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    Sounds to me you're fine with it as long as you can benefit from it.

    It would be strange when DoH/DoL changes and/or additions would not be in prelimenary patch notes. I also don't recall them saying they would refrain from DoH/L information.
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    Exploration could have those sands and then those people who horded to make a quick buck might find themselves with less money.
    The sands are not favor mats, they're aetherial node stuff. Any lv 60 gatherer can go to a node and get some provided they have a decent collectable rotation and luck. There's nodes almost around the clock. The market change seems to me like just a "pre-disaster people empty supermarket with no disaster in sight", since I don't see why sands would somehow have way higher demand. People using the sands are still the same crafters.
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    This would happen no matter what unless we got NO patch information until the day of...it's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFranco View Post
    This would happen no matter what unless we got NO patch information until the day of...it's that simple.
    In that case, the people that stay up (or get up) to login first after maintenance would still have the advantage.
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    Yeah, so SE is damned if the do and damned if they dont.

    I'll deal with it for a little while or focus on getting those items myself. There are problems with less work around that are probably bigger issues IMO.
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    I don't see why sands would somehow have way higher demand. People using the sands are still the same crafters.
    The bottleneck for crafting 2-Star stuff has been the mats purchased with Red Crafter Scrip + Favor node tokens (ooids etc) -- Purified Coke, Treant Sap, and the like. The supply of those mats will be increased after 3.1, therefore more 2-Star crafting will happen. Final 2-Star crafts (armors, etc, as opposed to intermediate mats like Adamantite Ingots) use the Aethersands. Therefore, demand for Aethersands will increase.
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