Some weird details in patch notes.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Regarding story mode Primals, do these fights already grant Echo? If not, I think this should be the first step towards a nerf. I don't want to see any drastic changes quite yet, but Echo would be an acceptable nerf if parties are still wiping.

[AeraLure]

Sastasha nerf. o.O

[FallenArisen0990]

Sastasha nerf. o.O

Water Tremor mechanic is too much for new person. It's too much work to run to it and click it.

[Sicno]

But it's a problem when you're blocked out of progressing because even if you learn the mechanics, everyone else in the DF keeps failing to. Especially pre-50..

But then that's how terribad people get to 3.0 dungeons and think they're doing ok and don't accept any criticism because "they got so far with no problems". I'm not liking these nerfs at all. Garuda HM being a faceroll is to be expected for being a terribly obsolete piece of endgame content, but nerfing a mechanics heavy trial during the learning process (the way to 50) only promotes bad players staying bad. I also find a terrible idea that the early gear check in MSQ is now fulfilled with starting racial clothes.

[Riardon]

Water Tremor mechanic is too much for new person. It's too much work to run to it and click it.

Not to mention those bloody invincible shells that you can keep hitting without doing any damage. They are creepy and dangerous.

[raela]

But then that's how terribad people get to 3.0 dungeons and think they're doing ok and don't accept any criticism because "they got so far with no problems". I'm not liking these nerfs at all. Garuda HM being a faceroll is to be expected for being a terribly obsolete piece of endgame content, but nerfing a mechanics heavy trial during the learning process (the way to 50) only promotes bad players staying bad. I also find a terrible idea that the early gear check in MSQ is now fulfilled with starting racial clothes.

But these people exist now, and clearly a level 5 gear check fails to even make an impact on the first dungeon (seen plenty of wtf gear there). Clearly they're not teaching the peope who need it (and potentially hurting the people who get stuck with them).

And people can still get carried through 3.0 dungeons as well.

[AskaRay]

Water Tremor mechanic is too much for new person. It's too much work to run to it and click it.

I honestly cannot even remember the last time I even did this fight properly

[Ashkendor]

Not to mention those bloody invincible shells that you can keep hitting without doing any damage. They are creepy and dangerous.

[Twilite]

Brilliant.

[AltanRapsied]

I love this guy's comics.