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    I really wish they would set that limit to 7 people instead of just 5. If I've been in a FATE party or a hunt party or run with a really great group from party finder, I'd like to be able to add the whole party to my friend list to run with later.

    Otherwise, I love this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    That still takes time to do (even by just clicking through stuff), so it'll still help.
    It's all a botted 24hr process anyway, so these sorts of things don't do a lot. To stop automated actions, you need to actually take measures to prevent the act entirely (such as the always-asked-for filtering options). Implementing stuff like limiting friend request totals does next to nothing, since that's an inconvenience action... bots can't feel inconvenienced. It'll stay the tide slightly, but FR's have always been the less frequent action than /tell, even before the free account FR change.
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    Wait... what? I'm extremely anti-social, and even I have added more than 5 friend requests in a single day. What happens when you join a new FC, and immediately start making friends with them? Or what happens if you are introduced to a friend's friends, or start a new character on the same server, or decide to leave an old FC but you try to add people to your friend list before you go?

    Sure, you could ask people to send the friend request to you, instead of vice-versa, but what person thought this out and said "yeah, five is a good restriction".

    How about five per hour, or attempting to send more than 10 per minute flags your account for immediate communication blackout? What we have is a game where SE fails to police and enforce RMT rules, and the best they can come up with are barriers that affect normal players. (No sending mail to characters on the same account)

    How long do you think it will take before 5 friend requests is changed to 8-10? I give it until patch 3.15. They never give any of these ideas the necessary amount of thought, and have to backtrack later in apology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    A smarter design would be multi choice options..

    "do not receive tells"
    "do not receive tells from anyone but friends"
    RMT sends say and shouts also, and you can turn your tells off. Mine has been off for months, but I'm a hermit and don't really talk to anyone anyways.Though it does shut them all down, having the option of friends only would be very helpful.
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    Last edited by Eye_Gore; 11-07-2015 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    A smarter design would be multi choice options..

    "do not receive tells"
    "do not receive tells from anyone but friends"

    "do not receive friend requests"
    "do not receive friend requests from anyone besides friends of friends"

    This right here stops it 100%.
    It would stop it for those players willing to give up interaction in order to block it. Just as /busy already stops it for those same players. You can also already turn off /tell if you want. The RMT spam problem is mainly an issue for people who DON'T WANT to block that interaction. We want the spammers themselves to be stopped, so that we don't have to block interactions with regular players.

    This Friend request change addresses only the tiniest bit of the problem, since Friend requests quit being a major part of RMT spam after Free Trial accounts were barred from sending them several months ago. I did see someone greifing Friend requests a few days ago, though (no RMT content, but just repeatedly sending and cancelling a request), so the change will help with that sort of thing. It's a good change overall, but not a very significant one, as it only addresses a relatively rare bit of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Unless the limit is account wide.
    Lets hope its account wide, I was about to say the same thing, they will just delete character then keep sending 1 each time.

    Though at least it slows them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It would stop it for those players willing to give up interaction.
    This is only kinda true, as there are plenty ways to communicate without tells first if its a random stranger.

    Going busy is also in the extreme since it disables eeeeeverything basically.


    Regardless, options are options and i feel the option to enable specific tells would be one of the biggest improvements

    Oh, also spammers will never be stopped, its just not do-able without putting in extreme limitations that would be more negative to real players than getting RMT msgs, so we gotta compromise a little hehe ykno
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    Last edited by LeeraSorlan; 11-07-2015 at 09:55 AM.

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    Sounds good to me... I figure by the time those scumbags reach my two characters' names, they will all have exhausted their opportunities on every character they create.
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    A smarter design would be multi choice options..

    "do not receive tells"
    "do not receive tells from anyone but friends"


    "do not receive friend requests"
    "do not receive friend requests from anyone besides friends of friends"


    This right here stops it 100%.


    Alternativly, disabling tells from any1 under level 10 or so helps a lil.


    I dont see this friend thing really impacting too much, helps yea, but barely
    Absolutely this. Why can't we have this and be done with it?

    Filter options to not receive tells, to only receive tells from friends, to only receive tells from players over level X. Additionally the aforementioned friend request filter options. Far better than anything that's been done so far. Really want this.
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    RMTs will start submitting applications to FCs lol...
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