Have you gated upgrade parts behind Hunts AGAIN, SE!?

[Kurogaea]

Re-posting this from a similar thread:

If they made them like actual hunt quests this wouldn't be a problem. Acccept the quests from the tavern or w/e, walk up to the hunt area queue awaiting 24-72 players, explore the now empty area instance specially made for your team, seek out the monster and beat the crap out of it. Now your whole team gets full credit and everyone goes back happy.

[Phireblast]

Re-posting this from a similar thread:

If they made them like actual hunt quests this wouldn't be a problem. Acccept the quests from the tavern or w/e, walk up to the hunt area queue awaiting 24-72 players, explore the now empty area instance specially made for your team, seek out the monster and beat the crap out of it. Now your whole team gets full credit and everyone goes back happy.

Yeah, it's called The Diadem.

[Kurogaea]

Yeah, it's called The Diadem.

Also re-posting from a similar thread:

that come with 3.1 (without the tavern)

............Why are you comparing company exploration to hunts? You do a buttload more things in explorations. In fact explorations would've been alot better if the exploring factor wasn't butchered with a damn to-do list. Whats the point of going to these new mysterious lands if we can't discover the s#%$ that are mysteries to us?? We already know what we're looking for!! That's like half the exploring right there!! Another idea with untapped potential.

The hunt idea is what hunts should have been in the past. Explorations would've been different too. Btw its was the first time I looked at that picture, super disappointing.

[Reinha]

That begs the question, why didn't The Diadem replace The Hunt entirely? It's pretty much a better version of The Hunt, even with its own currency similar to The Hunt.

Probably because The Hunt is a fully working game aspect in the open world that some people actually like doing. My question is, why are people so adamant about removing or replacing a type of gameplay they don't like when they could just suggest additional types of gameplay? "Better" is subjective after all.

............Why are you comparing company exploration to hunts? You do a buttload more things in explorations. In fact explorations would've been alot better if the exploring factor wasn't butchered with a damn to-do list. Whats the point of going to these new mysterious lands if we can't discover the s#%$ that are mysteries to us?? We already know what we're looking for!! That's like half the exploring right there!! Another idea with untapped potential.

The hunt idea is what hunts should have been in the past. Explorations would've been different too. Btw its was the first time I looked at that picture, super disappointing.

He was comparing your hunt idea to The Diadem, because they are almost identical. Except The Diadem offers other things to do if the team wants to stay there after killing one enemy. So your style of hunts would be redundant upon implementation. Also, you can minimize/hide your duty objective list if you don't like it.

Good thing about The Diadem is that it's apparently going to drop 210 gear, so anyone who prefer instanced hunting/exploring is free to do so for similar rewards. The cooldown between full missions is only 30 minutes which is a lot less than the wait for another S rank to pop.

[Colorful]

Probably because The Hunt is a fully working game aspect in the open world that some people actually like doing.

It's fine when it's relatively dead, but when it's a zergfest does anyone really find it fun? I doubt it, I can't speak for everyone but I can't say I enjoy people name calling each other on chat for 10 minutes due to "pulling early", or anything of that sort. They shouldn't be tied to progression, bardings, minions, sure. That maintains a healthy but not so toxic community for The Hunt, but when they tie progression it's not beneficial for the game or the players, while putting a lot of people off. If they insist on turning it into a zergfest time and time again, it's better to rid of it all together.

They're forcing people into content that they otherwise wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, which is where the problem lies. I know someone is going to respond "But you can spend 10+ weeks with the weekly Void Ark lockouts!", why did the Void Ark have to have those items weekly locked to begin with? It would be like telling someone they can drive for 2 hours to pick a package up, or wait 2 months for it to be delivered, obviously they're going to drive the 2 hours.

[Colorful]

Yeah, it's called The Diadem.

That begs the question, why didn't The Diadem replace The Hunt entirely? It's pretty much a better version of The Hunt, even with its own currency similar to The Hunt.

............Why are you comparing company exploration to hunts? You do a buttload more things in explorations. In fact explorations would've been alot better if the exploring factor wasn't butchered with a damn to-do list. Whats the point of going to these new mysterious lands if we can't discover the s#%$ that are mysteries to us?? We already know what we're looking for!! That's like half the exploring right there!! Another idea with untapped potential.

They're not butchering anything with a to-do list, that list is available for players who want to have a goal in mind. They can be completely ignored without any issues, I fail to see how that's butchering anything.

[Eothas]

Hunts are cool when you are doing them with a small group of people.

Zergfests? Waiting 200 min so the entire server can be there? Excuse-me, no. Thats terrible. Either let us get loot freely on void ark or gate hunt into 1 piece/week.

[Silenka]

Hunts are hilarious for this exact reason.

I can take or leave them but I'm not going to complain over the chance to get my gear upgraded faster than one token a week.
Plus, the constant cries about early pulls are an endless source of entertainment (at least, endless until hunts go back to being something no one cares about, which only takes about two weeks from the time any patch drops).

You shouldn't expect the entire server to pander to you specifically. If you want to participate in the content, try to get into a good hunt LS, be ready to get your party going and get to the mob as quick as you can. If it gets pulled before you get there, it's not the end of the world. I don't understand why people insist on acting like it is, but it sure is amusing to watch from my perspective.

[Brannigan]

FATEs you do with 350 other people should totally give out rewards that raids only give one of per week.

[Silenka]

"Raids"; Void Ark is going to be just as faceroll as FATEs, just like the CT chain.