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    Astaroth Cane While in Passive Inscription is Backwards!

    Taking a closer look at the inscription on the Astaroth's Cane, I noticed on one side the inscription is backwards/mirrored and the other side isn't. The mirrored side happens to be the one shown when in passive mode too. Is this just a graphical error? Or is the stone supposed to be cut through? To me it looks as if the inscription was etched in.

    Also might there be some place that shows more of the Eorzan version of the alphabet? I can only guess at the inscription saying "Thou art that and thou is all" from what few examples I've been able to find.

    This is an image of the inscription as readable un-mirrored Eorzan old English.
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    This has bugged me for a while. I don't think the LOCies can do much about it, though, it's an art display packet (part of the gear itself) in all versions.

    Eorzean Alphabet
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    Thank you for the chart. It's exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.

    I guess I'll just have to pretend the inscription was cut through the stone and not etched.
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    Np. I tend to double-check with this font, if you're looking for something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuellni View Post
    Taking a closer look at the inscription on the Astaroth's Cane, I noticed on one side the inscription is backwards/mirrored and the other side isn't. The mirrored side happens to be the one shown when in passive mode too. Is this just a graphical error? Or is the stone supposed to be cut through? To me it looks as if the inscription was etched in.
    Noooice find, Zuel. Like Moose said, it's not a loc bug, but I've forwarded it and your screenshot along to the dev team.

    Thanks for the post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    This has bugged me for a while. I don't think the LOCies can do much about it, though, it's an art display packet (part of the gear itself) in all versions.

    Eorzean Alphabet
    There's numbers too:

    1:
    2:
    3:
    4:
    5:
    6:
    7:
    8:
    9:
    10:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuellni View Post
    "Thou art that and thou is all"
    Could anyone please translate this sentence to modern English? I'm interested on this kind of things, but as you can read on my signature, English is not my mother language, so it's pretty difficult to me to understand this arcaic/poetic words.

    Art = Are?
    Thou = You?

    So confusing...
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    English is not my mother language. I'm trying to do my best, so please don't be rude...

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    It would seem to be "You are that and you are all", which doesn't make a lick of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    It would seem to be "You are that and you are all", which doesn't make a lick of sense.
    That's what I figured out and it doesn't make a lick of sense for me neither. Anyways, thank you for quick response Urthdigger ^_^/
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    "Thou art that" is a semi-well known saying from the Hindu Upanishads that basically means "You (the self) are," depending on the reading, "part of (or identical to) the supreme spirit of all that is reality." It's kind of hard to explain, the concept of Brahman is complex and unique to say the least.

    The second half of it isn't part of the Upanishads, but since "Thou art that" leaves the door open to be interpreted as the Self being either PART OF or ALL OF the universal spirit, I'd assume that adding "and thou is all" just clarifies what they were going for.

    So, the message is "You are the underlying spirit of all that is real," which sounds like something a Conjurer would say, really. The ability to manifest (conjure) the elements (and life-force itself) from nothingness is something that the spirit of reality could probably accomplish.

    The only thing I find ambiguous is... what about this relates to Astaroth? I can kinda piece it together, I guess. Astaroth is commonly mentioned in grimoires that that specializes in summoning demons. Batraal's a demon... so... there's that. But why it would an Astaroth Cane would have that saying inscribed on it ... got me.

    Can't help but wonder if Ferne or Emee is going to try to let this go, since it's a solved issue, but eventually cave one day while engaged in a conversation with the lore gods and ask, "Sooo... about that cane...."
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