Thread: 3.1 PLD changes look good

No need for concern esteemed Warriors and Dark Knights, I don't think PLD having an AoE move would not threaten or alter just about anything. Especially for WAR. It's not just DRK/WAR AoE moves, it's the synergy of many CDs and other abilities they have that really bring-it combined with their AOE in mob packs. PLD having 1 AOE hardly bridges the gap.

I'm still holding on to hope that SE will someday adjust Royal Authority into an AOE like Flare. Dealing 340 potency (or 100 or w/e it is when non-combo'd) to the selected target, and diminishing potency to other mobs near the PLD's hitbox. PLD rotation wouldn't really change other than multi-target. I'd rather not see a damage addition to Flash. So tired of the Flash Spammage, having Flash deal damage just makes the spam more likely. RA is the lvl60 action like CoS is PLD's lvl50. It'd be like: here's your AOE reward for all your suffrage through 1-59. Would be nice for them to finally throw a rug over that carpet stain in the PLD toolkit.

Frankly though with this 3.1 Swipe change, I don't think PLD's DPS kit is something SE even bothers looking at unless we the community complain loudly and coherently (this Swipe adjustment could have been something they did y'know.. years ago.. low lvl PLD has no tank stance, difficult\ holding hate etc etc).

Originally Posted by Xenosan

No need for concern esteemed Warriors and Dark Knights, I don't think PLD having anAoE move would not threaten or alter just about anything. Especially for WAR. It's not just DRK/WAR AoE moves, it's the synergy of many CDs and other abilities they have that really bring-it combined with their AOE in mob packs. PLD having 1 AOE hardly bridges the gap.

I'm still holding on to hope that SE will someday adjust Royal Authority into an AOE like Flare. Dealing 340 potency (or 100 or w/e it is when non-combo'd) to the selected target, and diminishing potency to other mobs near the PLD's hitbox. PLD rotation wouldn't really change other than multi-target. I'd rather not see a damage addition to Flash. So tired of the Flash Spammage, having Flash deal damage just makes the spam more likely. RA is the lvl60 action like CoS is PLD's lvl50. It'd be like: here's your AOE reward for all your suffrage through 1-59. Would be nice for them to finally throw a rug over that carpet stain in the PLD toolkit.

Frankly though with this 3.1 Swipe change, I don't think PLD's DPS kit is something SE even bothers looking at unless we the community complain loudly and coherently (this Swipe adjustment could have been something they did y'know.. years ago.. low lvl PLD has no tank stance, difficult\ holding hate etc etc).

I'm actually opposed to making Royal Authority an AoE for the reason of some encounters requiring surgical precision in regards to kill orders and stuff. I know things like Mog Ex would be a living nightmare if we couldn't prevent murdering moogles before we needed to.

On the subject of Paladin needing another AoE capability, I absolutely agree, but it needs to be something we can have the choice of using or not using that won't punish us either way.

EDIT: Actually, Square would benefit from making Shield Swipe a no TP, cone AoE, that's on a 15 second cooldown that requires an activation from receiving an attack. Keeping pacification as a crowd control option ***might*** be a touchy subject to some people, but I'd like it to apply to all mobs in the cone given just how long the cooldown timer is. Potency and Enmity, to me, is and was shaky at best so if this is ever implemented, obviously with a 15 second recast timer, both will need to be increased. It'd work like Overpower but it's still Paladin specific. Sheltron will directly benefit Paladins two-fold if this is the case. We could essentially start a pull and use Sheltron once we're finished so that it procs the cone AoE but also mitigates some damage in case we don't actually want to use Shield Swipe. I think that honestly with how much of a HUGE sweep you make with the shield doing the swipe it's easily justifiable as to why it's a cone AoE. but it still allows you to have choice and precision for content that needs precision. Other things are also going to be needed/changed, but this is honestly an obvious step in the right direction for the image and abilities of Paladin.

Originally Posted by Reynhart

It's called War Drum, and it existed in 1.x as a great way to gather enmity on multiple targets
In fact, it could stay on GCD and still cost TP, since its purpose wouldn't be to gain DPS on a single target, anymore.

Why the fuck would they ever change it LOL. That sounds amazing on paper and in practice.

But yeah, I agree, fuck it, make it cost TP and maybe be put back on GCD if in actual practice it's too too good.
Scratch that, I think what Square is changing it to is a somewhat right move. It's just too much to resist altering to be like my suggestion.