Thread: 3.1 PLD changes look good

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Which combined generates roughly the same amount of enmity as Flash + CoS.

Damage...damage...

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

If a Dark Knight wants to stack DA + DP and DA + DD they need to expend a lot of MP and it may not have the same average mitigation benefit as a Paladin stacking Blind and Bulwark.

Which he will restore far earlier than your PLD will have Bulwark ready again...In fact, against a lot of small adds, a DRK is virtually immortal for 40s with Blood Price, Dark Arts and Abyssal Drain.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

But the NA/EU playerbase did decide what strats they would use.

No, in fact, every community decided to stick with their beloved tanks...and failed. So, they throw PLD out of their setup.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The Hardminds/Hardhelms of A2S seem to have been intended to be mechanisms to reduce the viability of stack and burn strategies, but groups figured out ways of getting around their debuffs.

Yes, because it's faster and more simple to stack them and just burn them to the ground.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

That is because it is far to easy to over gear the pre-3.1 non-raid content by a good 20 to 30 ilevels around patch release.

A2 and A2S were cleared that way on first week, before you could outgear it.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The designers try to balance classes around all tiers of content not just raids and they tune the numbers for around the ilevel of the rewards and difficulty around the expected skill level of those doing the content.

No, they need to design it with high end tier, because if all jobs can clear it, they could clear low-tier. You can't say that PLD is fine because you can clear expert dungeons with it if the lacking DPS is really a problem for Savage.

They probably thought that no party could really clear A2S before farming several accessories from A1S, or having a full 190 set from Alex Normal...but they were wrong. If PLD viability is on par with their "expectation" (and thus, they decide to keep it that way) and WAR or DRK are above, then WAR and DRK should have been nerfed to be "on par" too. But that would have caused a disaster in the playerbase.

The problem is that their very view of the PLD is flawed. You can't have one tank "focused" on mitigation if ALL tanks have enough mitigation to clear any content with the same support. Unless the PLD is so sturdy that he doesn't need a dedicated healer (Only occasionnal heals from the "raid" healer and 100% HoT), then the main strength of PLD is wasted. And if it were, I couldn't care less about having crap DPS, because we could bring an additionnal real DPS to compensate.