Thread: Patch 3.1: Crafting Reborn (?)

Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

So how would that help anyone at all??? LOL!!!
Sounds really meaningless... 1800 law is almost like a full bank of 2K, for 1 purified coke??? Which we can't even use to craft ANYTHING???!!!
That's fxxked up... 9K for 5 purified coke for 1 Adam Ingot??!!! And 1 ingot is not even close to 1 gear yet!
I hope it's much more than that! If it's 1800 for 5 coke, at least it's = 1 ingot there, which would make more sense...

No, I think it's 1800 for the 5nq purified cokes

Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

So how would that help anyone at all??? LOL!!!
Sounds really meaningless... 1800 law is almost like a full bank of 2K, for 1 purified coke??? Which we can't even use to craft ANYTHING???!!!
That's fxxked up... 9K for 5 purified coke for 1 Adam Ingot??!!! And 1 ingot is not even close to 1 gear yet!
I hope it's much more than that! If it's 1800 for 5 coke, at least it's = 1 ingot there, which would make more sense...

Prior to the 3.1 tripling of red scrip materials per token, 1800 law for one purified coke might actually have made sense! Hopefully it really is 5 purified coke for 1800 law.

In all seriousness, I think it actually depends on the number of players grinding law and what model the developers have in mind. I'm not actually familiar on how long it takes to grind that much or how many players typically grind law, but if they believe that there will be a large enough number to supply the market board, it might really be 1 purified coke per 1800 law. We'll see when the patch launches.

Originally Posted by Millen1

As someone said above, players hit level 50 crafts but had no clue how to do the master II books. I find with many crafters that are leveled up and geared out is a lack of imagination to tackle a new crafting rotation. Most new crafts take me about an hour or two with pen, paper and 10 key to work out a solid rotation.

I think the developers have been trying to fix this. What went wrong in ARR was that most crafters were using RNG free macros to do their 1* and 2* crafts. When 3* crafts came around, they hadn't actually mastered crafting yet. Fortunately, level 51-60 crafts are like lite versions of master recipes, so that's probably supposed to tackle the skill issue.

This is a bit of a generalization, but when the master book ii turn ins were released, many crafters did the following:

1. Take a pre-existing documented rotation and follow it exactly to a tee. If your rotation consists of 2 RS and 10 HT, your expected inner quiet stack is going to be 8.6, which is nowhere close to 11. It's mind boggling that a crafter would continue doing this, while cursing RNG. The odds are heavily stacked against you, so it takes extremely good luck to nail every single RS and HT.

2. They were forced into reclaiming excessively, leading to complaints about lost FC3s and the incredible cost of these books.

What they should have done:

1. Figure out an effective theoretical rotation that can get you 11 stacks of inner quiet under average RNG. That is only possible using master's mend 2 twice for 13 touch attempts (with 2 RS and 13 HT, you get an average of 11 IQ stacks).
2. Assess it's feasibility and use a strategy that maximizes your chances of using mm2 twice. This means CP conservation, so ingenuity 2 must be thrown out. Also, no basic touches should be used on excellent conditions that pop up.

I found that it was possible to use master's mend 2 twice around 50% of the time on master book 2 tokens and 70% of the time on 4* recipes. Requiring excessive use of reclaim was nothing more than a myth.

Originally Posted by MN_14

I think the developers have been trying to fix this. What went wrong in ARR was that most crafters were using RNG free macros to do their 1* and 2* crafts. When 3* crafts came around, they hadn't actually mastered crafting yet. Fortunately, level 51-60 crafts are like lite versions of master recipes, so that's probably supposed to tackle the skill issue.

There are certain recipes that should never require more than a macro to craft once you've made the investment in gear/materia. Things like battle potions, which last only 15 seconds, and players burn through for their progression.

There needs to be a way to get favor mats too. Oh what I wouldn't give to not go do those 50+ gathering red scrips worth of favors >_<

Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

When is the questionable 3.2 coming? Any idea?

In December 2015, according to Yoshida-san.

Originally Posted by chidarake

it could be 1800-1 for those mats as law has no use in game bar gearing alt classes.

Not true. I have been gearing my DoW/DoM retainers using Law tomestones.