Dear SE Dev Team

[SomeRandomHuman]

Dear Dev Team,

Before the release of 3.0 you said we would have new egis for summoner to use, but then opted to not give us those new egis. This upset many of us, yes, but I do understand that it is not the biggest priority in the world. Then you mentioned about being able to glamor the existing egis. Shortly after some community representatives responded to the hot topic saying it was a strain on production.

So in response I have a question on the matter:

Will we ever see the glamor feature on egis or new egi all-together? If so, then when can we expect to receive them?

Sincerely,
The actively interested Summoner playerbase

[Nalien]

Am I the only person who is disappointed by the mere concept of Egi-Glamours?

2.0, Summoner was very disappointing for me, you popped Ifrit or Garuda, then did your regular DoT rotation, perhaps with some input as to what the pet did (Contagion). A Job called Summoner, I think, should be doing more than one summoning...
3.0, Dreadwyrm Stance was a great addition, very true to the original Summoner, in that you pop Bahamut, do a single move, then he is gone...

That is how I want the Job to function as a whole... I kinda want them to just scrap the whole Job as it currently is, make Arcanist a healer (the DoTs being disease based even works for Scholar), and make Summoner an Extra Job like the Heavensward trio, meaning you can even have it require 2.55 completion and give it all Primals by default. I'd rather see the pet aspect of the Job just completely removed in favour of stance dancing between the various six Primals, with Bahamut remaining as the final pay off...

The whole Job honestly felt like it was rushed out for 2.0s release, Egi-Glamours just feels like a band-aid fix... Yeah it would give Summoner all the Egis, but I've never viewed that as the problem... I'd like to have all the summons, but I'd prefer to have them in a meaningful way... If they just let us switch between Titan/Shiva for Tank-Egi, Garuda/Ramuh for Mage-Egi, and Ifrit/Leviathan for Melee-Egi... Well, I'm still only summoning one Egi... I'd much rather the entire Jobs summoning be handled in the same way Bahamut-Egi is handled...

That said, I'm aware plenty of people like their DoT Mage, and I'm incline to agree, it's just to me it doesn't feel like it should be Summoner or a pet Job... I think it would be more apt to take some of the existing assets to build a real Summoner, and use the existing ones to make Red Mage... The whole DoT > burst mechanic actually seems quite fitting for Red Mage IMO, what with the whole spell fencer motif they commonly have... Rather than Fester you could have some sword play, for example...

Still, an update on Egi-Glamours would be nice... I'd like to know if they're sticking to their guns or planning a (IMO) real fix...

[BreathlessTao]

Am I the only person who is disappointed by the mere concept of Egi-Glamours?

No.

By the entire SMN job as it is now, tbh. And still the answer is no. (I mean. "Pop Bahamut" - yeah, more in a shapeshifter kind of way, which to me isn't a summoner.)

But yeah this whole Egi-glamour thing, the fact that as far as we know now they haven't even started working on it yet, either.... eh. :/

[SomeRandomHuman]

Am I the only person who is disappointed by the mere concept of Egi-Glamours?

Still, an update on Egi-Glamours would be nice... I'd like to know if they're sticking to their guns or planning a (IMO) real fix...

That is more or less the point of this thread. I am well aware of, and knowing of, the differing opinions on the subject itself. This thread is intended to be a petition for the player base to metaphorically sign saying we would like to know the status of ether or both things mentioned in the thread. All other threads similar to this were ignored due to the banter amongst the community in them.

[Negafox]

I would settle with just being able to use my Carbuncles as SCH/SMN.

[NanaHakuuchi]

I would settle with just being able to use my Carbuncles as SCH/SMN.

This.

I would love to be able to do more single target damage. I would love to have more egis I could summon (although to me being able to summon certain primals would break the world a little), but please just let me have my Carby back. We were together for 30+ levels of my adventure in Eorzea and I just don't have the same affection for Garuda and Titan (again story-wise why should I?)

[Mature]

I'm not bothered at all. I'm loving the new patch

[NanaHakuuchi]

No one said we dislike the new patch XD I think there's some great stuff in there and I look forward to getting it. Some of us are just disappointed by a lack of update to our job, particularly in regards to our summons.

[Belhi]

Didn't they say a while back they had done concept work for egi glamours? I know they said it will take time because they need to not only create the models but do new animations and spell effects that match the egi glamour.

I think its extremely unlikely you will see a full overhaul of the class from the ground up, partially because it would be a massive amount of work that they would probably spend on developing Jobs for the next expac and also because there would be people who liked SMN as it was and be unhappy with a drastic change. The Job itself isn't broken. It just doesn't thematically match what some people want.

[AlphaFox]

The Job itself isn't broken. It just doesn't thematically match what some people want.

Which isnt exactly a bad thing, but people need to understand if Summoner is not what they expect, they need to wrap it around the new jobs they want as well like Samurai and Blue mage may not be what they expect from previous games of XI. Now personally I do feel if the Summoner was more akin to Yuna in Dissidia 012, in that they pop for a brief second to strike then vanish it would be more to how we want to see them, remove the pet all together and have them be an extension of the Summoner themselves. Least that is how I would invision it, that would basically make them the melee magic class people want too.