Quote Originally Posted by Krylo View Post
But here's the thing: Look at the people complaining 'it puts tanks and healers under undue duress' 'it's stressful to have to dps' etc. etc.

What's more stressful, really? Pushing a couple extra buttons to toss out some quick DPS, where if you screw up, or even don't do it, outside of the hardest current raids no one actually gives a shit nine out of ten times, or having to constantly spam your heals while maintaining mana while the tank is constantly on the verge of death? I've done both at various points from 1-50 (particularly memorable was the tank who accidentally pulled about half of the swamp in brayflox normal), and the heal spamming is a hell of a lot more stressful. What's more stressful as a Pld? Those levels between 30 and 40 when you don't have shield oath yet and have to struggle to for every little ounce of aggro, or hitting sword stance on the rafflesia knock off in Sohm Al during the phases when he's not hitting you anyway (read: almost the entire fight).

These people are complaining about the STRESS that DPSing gives them. You really think they aren't going to be on here whining about the much much much higher stress levels that come with actually having to spam cure 2/using every damage CD perfectly NOT FOR DAMAGE but just to try and keep their aggro up?

Really? That's a thing you think?
the way I see it (as in, me, myself, all alone. My opinion), I feel that the meta puts me under stress because of the other players. They expect me to dps. they expect me to pull of XX numbers, or even without a parser on, to do XX thing at YY time because "that's the way you should do it, git gud scrub". I like to dps when I feel like it. Not when I'm forced to do it. To put it simply : I loved when in coil I could drop tank stance and waltz around with berserk. I still like it, even. Alexander normal, while a joke and total faceroll, was still fun because I had the possibility to decide "fuck it, I go dps mode to burn phis phase faster" just like I could do it in coil.

Alexander Savage, however, is more towards the "dps is your one and only way to do anything meaningful". I didn't mind against Faust, I didn't mind vs oppressor pre-split (nothing to tank anyway), but I don't like to be forced to do it after split (to the point I would go in tank stance only to eat the plasma because the game forces me to do it). I hate to be forced to do it in AS2 for nearly the entirety of the run (tank stance only while I have 2 dolls and for the last 2 waves. What a joke). I hated it even more in AS3 for as little as I tried it (full time dps herp derp).

But I did it. Because I was expected to do it, forced to do it. And this was stressing me. Not because I could dps, but because I had to dps, and was expected to meet a certain dps ceiling not to be called out as bad. I chose tank.. to tank, basically. Not to be an other dps.

So I agree, I don't think people who find dps'ing stressful as tanks or healer (as in, they find it stressful to dps when they have the possibility) would appreciate a full-time healing or tanking job. However, people like me who find it stressful to be forced to perform optimally what should be a sub-job for us, to the point where this sub-job totally outshines what we should be doing instead would be just fine. We just want to perform great at our job and every now and then throw that extra bit of dps because we can. Not because it's required.

(of course this only applies if your group meet the expected gear requirement for the duty. If you're under, the extra dps will still be needed)

Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
The greatest mistake they ever made in this game was to cave to pressure from BRDs who wanted to DPS instead of buff. Their whining and SE response is what created the toxic community today.
Nah. SE said from the start that they wouldn't implement true support jobs in FFxiv. Supposedly too hard for the players (duh, really ? Do we sound THAT dumb for you ?) and not attractive enough to fill in the DF spots.