A quick PLD VS DRK DPS check.

[Ashkendor]

I keep proving you and others wrong, and its like you just ignore it.

People ignore you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're very adamant in other threads about having no interest in Savage; that right there shows us that you aren't really in a position to seriously discuss the endgame tanking meta. Not to mention, anyone and everyone can upload to FFLogs; he's talking about the top potential of the two classes and you're providing what basically amounts to a heap of random numbers from people that aren't necessarily putting out optimal DPS and have widely variable gear levels and raid compositions. It doesn't have anything to do with the point that he's trying to make.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

People ignore you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're very adamant in other threads about having no interest in Savage; that right there shows us that you aren't really in a position to seriously discuss the endgame tanking meta. Not to mention, anyone and everyone can upload to FFLogs; he's talking about the top potential of the two classes and you're providing what basically amounts to a heap of random numbers from people that aren't necessarily putting out optimal DPS and have widely variable gear levels and raid compositions. It doesn't have anything to do with the point that he's trying to make.

Who cares what 5 dark knights people can do? There are 4 million people playing the game and i'm sure the four guilds that actually clear Savage... did you actually see how abysmally low the clear rate is? Nobody cares about savage because its stupid. Your throwing your face at a DPS check! *gulfclap!* Any sane person will just wait for it to be nerfed or not do it.

For example, the reason Blizzard won't buff Arthas, is because one Korean player is just absolutely AMAZING with him. He is the entire reason they won't buff him, isn't that a bit silly? That is your argument.

[Syzygian]

snip.

Lmao.

Excuse me for using what jobs are capable of at their best as a yardstick.

[Ashkendor]

Who cares what 5 dark knights people can do? There are 4 million people playing the game and i'm sure the four guilds that actually clear Savage... did you actually see how abysmally low the clear rate is? Nobody cares about savage because its stupid. Your throwing your face at a DPS check! *gulfclap!* Any sane person will just wait for it to be nerfed or not do it.

There aren't four million people currently playing the game. There's four million accounts. As far as the clear rates go, that number gets thrown around and taped onto all sorts of stupid arguments that it doesn't really apply to. It's not an accurate depiction of how many people are doing the content. Plenty of groups are actively working on Savage. Yes the clear rate is low, but you can't just completely discount the portion of the community that is actively engaging in the content but simply haven't gotten the clear yet. If you aren't interested in it, great. That's your decision. I have to wonder why you continue to try to discuss it though.

For example, the reason Blizzard won't buff Arthas, is because one Korean player is just absolutely AMAZING with him. He is the entire reason they won't buff him, isn't that a bit silly? That is your argument.

No, you just see it this way because your argument is "Hey, lots of people are shitty at this so it needs a buff."

[Nektulos-Tuor]

There aren't four million people currently playing the game. There's four million accounts. As far as the clear rates go, that number gets thrown around and taped onto all sorts of stupid arguments that it doesn't really apply to. It's not an accurate depiction of how many people are doing the content. Plenty of groups are actively working on Savage. Yes the clear rate is low, but you can't just completely discount the portion of the community that is actively engaging in the content but simply haven't gotten the clear yet. If you aren't interested in it, great. That's your decision. I have to wonder why you continue to try to discuss it though.



No, you just see it this way because your argument is "Hey, lots of people are shitty at this so it needs a buff."

All 0.12% of that "community". The rates recently released people actually attempting "doing" it were abysmally low.

Not saying you're wrong because I don't know the exact numbers myself, but something to keep in mind is your WAR might be worse than he could be.

Probably the case, Warrior is much harder to play then DRK.

[CGMidlander]

Who cares what 5 dark knights people can do? There are 4 million people playing the game and i'm sure the four guilds that actually clear Savage... did you actually see how abysmally low the clear rate is? Nobody cares about savage because its stupid. Your throwing your face at a DPS check! *gulfclap!* Any sane person will just wait for it to be nerfed or not do it.

For example, the reason Blizzard won't buff Arthas, is because one Korean player is just absolutely AMAZING with him. He is the entire reason they won't buff him, isn't that a bit silly? That is your argument.

Please,