Ifrit reward system seriously needs tweaking

[Actus]

They arent the best weapons in the game...materia attached gear can become more powerful.

Yes, but it will take 4 melds to do so. And that is a stretch to accomplice.

1 in 7 chance to get the weapon you want (number of classes) multiplied by 1 in 8 (the number in the party) =1/56 chance
equals less then 2% chance... say it drops 3 weapons... thats still less the 6%. Every time you do ifrit its about 5.3%
its worst then forbidden materia crafting

There's a 14% chance of getting the weapon that you are after each chest spawn. I think the average drop rate between the group is around 7-10%. So you're looking at 1.4% chance at getting the drop you're wanting.

[Jinko]

The reason why it's like this is because it's not like batraal where you just beat the boss and get loot. For ifrit, you not only need to beat the boss but you also need to be in possession of an Inferno Lamp key item. If you have a key item, you are allowed to loot the chest. If you don't have it you can't loot the chest.

In order to avoid people getting loot who didn't have the key item, the loot goes straight into the inventory of players who were able to loot the chest. It's exactly like Faction NMs, where only people who had the leve could get loot. However, the end result loot from faction NMs was tradeable, so it wasn't really an issue.

What they ought to do is spawn more than one chest, each that contains only one of the weapons. Then the player can choose which chest to open. If you didn't have the key item, you can't open any chests.

Or just have Ifrit drop a horn (or acquire the horn from the chest), which you can take to an npc to get the item of your choice crafted, FF11 used to something similar to this.

Better yet seeing as the Ifrit quest is repeatable why not take the horn back to the NPC and have the choice to select the weapon you want.

[Kiara]

If I heard right, everyone gets something yes. While I do love the idea that no matter what, you get a little token for the fight, the randomness of it is a little silly.

Hi Vahzl,

Actually the OP confirmed that everyone does *not* get a Weapon for each kill. This makes this system even worse than what we thought.

No, there is no garunteed drop. Kill 34 now and two of the group have only received one item. The drop rate chance is where it should be. At the rate that they're getting items it'll take them over 200 kills before they get the weapon they want. That is ballsfucking stupid.

I hope this fix this.

[Chain]

How these guys can take an outright AWFUL system and make it even worse is beyond any words. These are the guys that are supposed to be fixing the game. The random loot list was bad enough so they decided to just randomly put it in your inventory.

There are simply NO words to describe incompetence of this level.

[Supafly]

I am confident you guys have already thought of this already. Since he is on farmable status with ya the only thing I can mention to think of and since I have never killed the big guy is for all but 1 player to leave the zone and allow just 1 person per kill to open chest thus increasing drop chances for that 1 individualized player...if that is, it is possible for 7 other players to leave the zone and not all at once. It's not a guaranteed fix but would probably help.

Hopefully this gets a major fix in the future.

[sWhiteboy]

Well then, now you have end-game content. You can kill Ifrit over and over until you get what you want.

Yay?

[ViciousValentine]

Square Enix stop making artificial difficulty and timesinks which are pointless and frustrating. Please get it together.

[Duuude007]

1 in 7 chance to get the weapon you want (number of classes) multiplied by 1 in 8 (the number in the party) =1/56 chance
equals less then 2% chance... say it drops 3 weapons... thats still less the 6%. Every time you do ifrit its about 5.3%
its worst then forbidden materia crafting

Corrected data as confirmed above shows that there is like a 9 in 10 chance that the chest yields Grade 4 Dark Matter and not an ifrit weapon...

[ViciousValentine]

Corrected data as confirmed above shows that there is like a 9 in 10 chance that the chest yields Grade 4 Dark Matter and not an ifrit weapon...

I would honestly rather Ifrit have a 1/10 chance of dropping 1 weapon, and being able to assign that weapon to a party member.

[Zdenka]

Do the people with low obtain percentages have a Lamp every attempt? Patch notes says members with Lamps will recieve "greater" rewards. It may mean its impossible to get a weapon w/o having one.