Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
They sorta did this with Alex NM already, but it was out geared really quickly. Saw enrages + several wipes on my first runs though, and the forum had topics where people said they couldn't get through A4 and PF was all "experience needed."

...though even now none of these fights are a guaranteed win. Plenty of chances for DF to make everyone go splat.
Yeah there hasn't been a week I've gone into Alex normal where I haven't seen a wipe on at least one of the 4 wings. Heck the other week I had a group that wiped on faust once and the oppressors twice before we downed it.