Thread: Patch 3.1 Information

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

A normal mode becomes more accessible over time through overgearing and echo, as well as the eventual DF introduction. This ultimately becomes unnessescary with how easy the intial normal mode Alexander is now (considering it;s tuned to even be DFable and be do-able with slackers)

They sorta did this with Alex NM already, but it was out geared really quickly. Saw enrages + several wipes on my first runs though, and the forum had topics where people said they couldn't get through A4 and PF was all "experience needed."

...though even now none of these fights are a guaranteed win. Plenty of chances for DF to make everyone go splat.

Originally Posted by raela

They sorta did this with Alex NM already, but it was out geared really quickly. Saw enrages + several wipes on my first runs though, and the forum had topics where people said they couldn't get through A4 and PF was all "experience needed."

...though even now none of these fights are a guaranteed win. Plenty of chances for DF to make everyone go splat.

Yeah there hasn't been a week I've gone into Alex normal where I haven't seen a wipe on at least one of the 4 wings. Heck the other week I had a group that wiped on faust once and the oppressors twice before we downed it.

Originally Posted by raela

They sorta did this with Alex NM already, but it was out geared really quickly. Saw enrages + several wipes on my first runs though, and the forum had topics where people said they couldn't get through A4 and PF was all "experience needed."

...though even now none of these fights are a guaranteed win. Plenty of chances for DF to make everyone go splat.

I don't think it's really the same. The entire raid was face rolled in hours and any wipes you see in here are typically because people aren't paying attention to extremely basic things like picking up adds in A4 or not paying attention. There ren't any hard mechanics here, they are on the level of crystal tower difficulty if not easier.