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    Did the changes to PLD make Shield Swipe an oGCD without needing to proc? Or, in addition to a 15sec recast, it also requires a successful shield block to proc. If it does need proc, then eh, I guess it's fine-but makes it worthless when offtanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Did the changes to PLD make Shield Swipe an oGCD without needing to proc? Or, in addition to a 15sec recast, it also requires a successful shield block to proc. If it does need proc, then eh, I guess it's fine-but makes it worthless when offtanking.
    still needs a block proc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isius View Post
    still needs a block proc
    So it's functionally very similar to Reprisal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    So it's functionally very similar to Reprisal.
    I would say Reprisal is functionally better.

    pot is about the same:

    3 x swipes = 450 pot extra per minute

    2 x reprisals = 420 pot extra per minute

    but with darkness up all the time 2 reprisals will likely do more dps then 3 swipes, someone else can do the math for that

    swipe gets pacify while reprisal gets -10% dmg down

    swipe would be better for normal dungeon runs, while reprisal would be good with most of savage.

    overall reprisal is better, similar in activition requirements but not the same in strength or utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isius View Post
    3 x swipes = 450 pot extra per minute

    2 x reprisals = 420 pot extra per minute
    Huh? Why 3? It should be 4... 2 guaranteed under control because of Sheltron, and 1 with a very high chance of proc because of Bulwark... at least in the offensive department Shield Swipe does beat Reprisal for quite the margin :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Huh? Why 3? It should be 4... 2 guaranteed under control because of Sheltron, and 1 with a very high chance of proc because of Bulwark... at least in the offensive department Shield Swipe does beat Reprisal for quite the margin :/
    asking for 4 shield swipes to line up just right in a 60 sec time window is asking a bit much, and only happens when it works out perfectly, 3 shield swipes every 60 secs is more realistic. But yeah Shield Swipes activaction will get better with more patches that bring us better shields that will up that number, but still 4 shields swipes is asking for a perfect scenario.

    after playing pld a little more with the new changes I find the change okay, and less clumsy to use then I first thought, but it is really just a minor dps increase while mting.

    * I am not going to hold back or use Bulwark for a 150 pot move, procing shield swipe will just be a bonus if I am using Bulwark atm, and that is about it...it's not the same as Bulwark+Shield Swipe combo we had back in 2.x.
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    Last edited by Isius; 11-11-2015 at 09:02 AM.