Thread: 3.1 PLD Changes

Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

A job doesn't need to be preferable over another for X fight to be balanced. As long as all tanks can clear the content, then all tanks are viable, which is all that's really necessary. The problem was that the disparity in DPS between PLD and the other tanks lead to PLD being unable to clear content in the same gear that DRK/WAR could. PLD, with the current gear available (especially in 3.1), can clear everything. If played correctly, they won't be holding anyone back because the DPS check will be met. Yes, DRK/WAR makes it easier, but that doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary to bring DRK/WAR atm. During early progression, yes - but now? Nah.
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In terms of clearing content, PLD itself has no problems atm due to the gear boosting it's effectiveness to "good enough". In the future, in 3.2, PLD could face some troubles if we have the same strict DPS checks... however, based on the information we've been given, it sounds like tank DPS as a whole is being reworked and we could see even larger sweeping changes to the meta.

Basically, the TP change right now is fine. A DPS change isn't actually needed in 3.1 as it will have no effect on PLD's current ability to clear a fight. PLD can, and has, cleared everything now

i feel like its more long the lines of people want it to be changed asap so its not a big concern for 3.2

I want to see dual-pld 4-caster a4s clears

Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Gonna be honest, if your raid is hurting for DPS at this point in the game in A3S then it's not a job choice issue. If you switch to DRK/WAR now, that DPS issue will persist in A4S and there won't be any job changing work-arounds. It's better for your group to improve than try and squirt Elmer's glue all over the problem. DRK MT/PLD OT is the best choice for that composition, you'll get higher DPS and DRK won't have any trouble holding aggro. It'll also free up your CDs quite a bit for hand phase, add phase, and the final phase.

It is partly a job choice issue though. We have basically the worst possible raid composition for A3S right now - PLD/DRK, WHM/AST, and no NIN. We're completely missing out on the slashing debuff along with trying to figure out how to handle healer DPS. If the AST does it, the DPS seems negligible. If the WHM does it, the DPS is better but people die. Mind you, we've only been in there a week now (technically two but our scholar suddenly quit last week so we've been trying to replace) but we're running into the same wall over and over again. I know we'll get better at the fight as we practice the mechanics more, but right now I honestly just kind of feel like dead weight any time low DPS numbers are brought up and that's a terrible feeling to have.

Dunno, I'm going to level WAR either way, and we're going to try the DRK as MT this next week and see how things go.

Originally Posted by Ashkendor

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Lol if you clear with that comp please plaster a recording of it everywhere on the internet cause that is just fuckin heroic bruh.