3.1 PLD Changes

**Xenosan** · 11-06-2015 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Isius

I was already thinking about Titan Egi being a better tank then Pld a few weeks back if it had a bit more HP, well as long no tank swaps are needed. lol

I can imagine SMNs with Fending Loadouts and VIT Character Bonuses for Titan-Egi Summoning then Hymn use for respec and casting Loadout Swap.

I can 'try' to understand SE's point of view regarding lower DPS, of viable but not practical utility... But no AoE? It's not that their AOE doesn't compete - it doesn't even exist.. Livable drawback in 2.x but jeez not anymore.

Throw me a frickin' bone

**Freyyy** · 11-06-2015 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Caj814

Anyone else ready for 3-4 more months of PLD DPS threads?

**Ashkendor** · 11-06-2015 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Theodric

Honestly, I'd probably go DRK or WAR but I don't really like the aesthetics. They look pretty cool, don't get me wrong, but I'm a sword and shield kind of guy. I don't really like axes and DRK abilities look a bit too 'evil' for the sort of character I want to play. >_>

I have DRK at 60 but can't really get into the gameplay. It's not awful, but I end up running into mana management issues and I find it a little offputting. War was pretty fun at 50 to me already, but I've always just felt more comfortable on paladin so that's what I've stuck with. Thing is, my static has ended up with a PLD/DRK setup which was fine for A1S/A2S but it's crippling us now that we've started A3S. Even worse, we don't have a ninja so tanking in Sword Oath isn't going to work. I barely keep hate off the WHM at times as it is. I've been waiting to see what 3.1 gives us before I decide what to do, but if they seriously aren't going to adjust PLD's DPS capability at all then I don't really have much choice. I can either sit around waiting for our DPS to get more gear or I can be proactive and swap tank classes. At this point I just kinda feel stupid that I haven't done it sooner.

At least the new EX trial will make it so I don't need an eso weapon, I guess. :/

**Fyce** · 11-06-2015 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jpec07

Paladin DPS is not the problem--encounters that require extremely high DPS and offer no incentive for a "tanky" tank are.

This guys gets it.
It's the tank(and healer) meta which is(are) off, not the PLD job in itself.

If they want to make PLD be relevant again, they need to shift the meta to make the players think "should we switch to PLD because we need that mitigation?" instead of "should we switch to WAR because we need that DPS to pass the checks?". Well, it's not even a question to ask noadays. Same goes for Fending accessories.

As it is now, the holy trinity is pretty much broken because DPS is king while mitigation and healing are way below in terms of priority.

Also, screw you magic damage.

**Theodric** · 11-06-2015 02:11 AM

If they're going to allow WAR and DRK to dish out a decent amount of damage then it's only fair that PLD get to do the same. It isn't going to break anything. If anything, it'll make the class more engaging because at the moment it is arguably quite clunky - especially in PvP or as an OT.

**Syzygian** · 11-06-2015 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Theodric

as an OT.

OT is actually the one place where they are closest to being on par with the other tanks. If you have a pld in your group you're gimping raid dps by making them MT. Simply making the numbers on the screen bigger across the board for a job doesnt make it less clunky or more engaging.

**SpookyGhost** · 11-06-2015 02:17 AM

I think they plan on making some sweeping adjustments to tank damage as a whole in 3.2, so now that PLD has caught up enough gear-wise they didn't feel the need to make any big changes this patch. If they start focusing less on DPS and more on mitigation for tanks then things might naturally balance themselves out. It's kinda weird, and while I feel like PLD needs a DPS boost to some degree, SE has the hard data and the testing to make these kinds of decisions better than I can.

**Syzygian** · 11-06-2015 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ashkendor

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Let your DRK MT.

**Warlyx** · 11-06-2015 02:27 AM

i think the issue is how the game has evolved , all the new encounters are tight dps checks and having a pld is a NO-NO , because everything revolves around DPS and moar DPS , tanks healers need to dps too , and the dps need to PUSH more numbers. Some boss dps check? i can understand , like some add that pops or the boss shields and u need to break the shield , or titan hearth phase...but when the whole encounter is a huge dps check /sigh

To be fair atm War is near brd/mch on dps , and doing around 30% more dmg than pld ....Drk a little behind, how is that balanced ?

U can give pld infinite tp all u want , but having 1 member doing 800~ dps instead of 1100~ is a huge difference no matter what.

or being forced to be MT or OT because your class is X , not fun in that , all the 3 tanks need to be able to MT/OT period.

**Isius** · 11-06-2015 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Warlyx

i think the issue is how the game has evolved , all the new encounters are tight dps checks and having a pld is a NO-NO , because everything revolves around DPS and moar DPS , tanks healers need to dps too , and the dps need to PUSH more numbers. Some boss dps check? i can understand , like some add that pops or the boss shields and u need to break the shield , or titan hearth phase...but when the whole encounter is a huge dps check /sigh

To be fair atm War is near brd/mch on dps , and doing around 30% more dmg than pld ....Drk a little behind, how is that balanced ?

U can give pld infinite tp all u want , but having 1 member doing 800~ dps instead of 1100~ is a huge difference no matter what.

or being forced to be MT or OT because your class is X , not fun in that , all the 3 tanks need to be able to MT/OT period.

agreed and said the samethings for months

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