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    3.1 PLD Changes

    From: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...y_released_jp/


    Job Adjustment
    • Paladin's main problem is the compatibility with current contents.
    • Adjustments will be made to address TP issues, but no adjustment will be made to Paladin's DPS.
    • They are aware that currently Clemency and Divine Veil do not have many uses in current content.

    No DPS change? What a massive disappointment. Maybe SE isn't aware of their own meta that they created.
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    lol they seriously think that we take DRK over PLD for utility, magic mitigation or something like that ? No SE. It's for the deeps.

    And even if they make fights with more physical damage and less DPS checks, PLD current "superiority" mitigation-wise is unnecessary, it's overkill mitigation, so unless they make fights which are not survivable by anything other than a PLD (which would be even more unbalanced), the optimal MT will stay DRK if they don't touch PLD's MT DPS a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    lol they seriously think that we take DRK over PLD for utility, magic mitigation or something like that ? No SE. It's for the deeps.

    And even if they make fights with more physical damage and less DPS checks, PLD current "superiority" mitigation-wise is unnecessary, it's overkill mitigation, so unless they make fights which are not survivable by anything other than a PLD (which would be even more unbalanced), the optimal MT will stay DRK if they don't touch PLD's MT DPS a little bit.
    i was debating this with my FC about a week ago. unless SE makes content that absolutely needs PLD to survive it, DRK will be chosen over it. even if they do make such content then you can bet we will get some "DRK needs more buff" threads
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    Last edited by raymon; 11-06-2015 at 03:34 AM.

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    Paladin OT DPS is similar to the other tanks, off by a small margin. MT DPS is where Paladin suffers due to enmity generation.

    If they increase Paladin's ability to gain enmity first where Paladin can stance dance without losing hate, they can see whether they still need to make adjustments... Would be my guess. They already said they'd be doing something with PLD enmity a while ago so I guess we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Paladin OT DPS is similar to the other tanks, off by a small margin. MT DPS is where Paladin suffers due to enmity generation.

    If they increase Paladin's ability to gain enmity first where Paladin can stance dance without losing hate, they can see whether they still need to make adjustments... Would be my guess. They already said they'd be doing something with PLD enmity a while ago so I guess we'll see.
    - Remove DMG penalty of Shield Oath
    - Give Flash a Holy DMG Potency
    - Give Sword Oath additional 10% Haste and it would be fine as DPS Stance.

    Paladin fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheraa View Post
    - Remove DMG penalty of Shield Oath
    - Give Flash a Holy DMG Potency
    - Give Sword Oath additional 10% Haste and it would be fine as DPS Stance.

    Paladin fixed.
    Sign me up for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheraa View Post
    - Remove DMG penalty of Shield Oath
    - Give Flash a Holy DMG Potency
    - Give Sword Oath additional 10% Haste and it would be fine as DPS Stance.

    Paladin fixed.
    u cant do that , since all the def stances lower dmg , u can however make Royal A. buff paladin dmg similar to Maim, and changin sheltron in Sword Oath so it buffs dmg somehow so its usefull even as OT.
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    You want PLD dps? Play it as OT. There's always going to be a party composition that does max dps, why does it matter to you if it's PLD+WAR, PLD+DRK or WAR+DRK? Everyone's just going to jump on the bandwagon of whatever top raid groups use instead of thinking for themselves and being willing to lose a small amount of dps to let people play whatever they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    You want PLD dps? Play it as OT. There's always going to be a party composition that does max dps, why does it matter to you if it's PLD+WAR, PLD+DRK or WAR+DRK? Everyone's just going to jump on the bandwagon of whatever top raid groups use instead of thinking for themselves and being willing to lose a small amount of dps to let people play whatever they want.
    Your mindset doesn't change the current imbalance. It just gives a reason for people that don't care about their groups shitty composition to play what they want.
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    That's disappointing. Though after playing WoW for so long I'm pretty much resigned to the idea of certain classes being screwed over/unintentionally ignored. I suspect the developers don't play PLD very often - which wouldn't surprise me given how the 'face' of FFXIV is both a WAR and a DRG.
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