Thread: 3.1 PLD Changes

Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

is it really every 15 seconds, they said nothing about removing the proc to use this skill. So it could rely on a bit of rng at times to use it, ive went 40+ seconds b4 w/o a proc.

There'll be some times where it wont proc of course, but paladins do have decent block rates. Remember we also have SHELTRON which guarantees a shield swipe proc every 30 seconds, along with Bulwark when needed. Dark Knights rarely have a problem with their parry-reactive so I think we'll see the proc more frequently than you may think. Once every 30 seconds is the absolute worst it will be due to sheltron, it'll probably be closer in practise to once every 20 or less.

I agree on the TP thing though - we're gaining 10 TP every 9 GCDs roughly. That's a small buff. Of course, if anyone was using the OLD shield swipe to save TP on long fights they'll be unable to do this now so we'll actually see paladins running dry on TP -faster- than before. The Goring TP reduction really only affects offtanking and A4 where you cant block anything. Still, it's a buff.

Hoping for AOE physical damage as commonplace so rage of halone can take its rightful place as plds raid mitigation- cuz divine veil is still a bit shoddy with no buffs in sight to that/clemency. :/

Originally Posted by Kemas

Hoping for AOE physical damage as commonplace so rage of halone can take its rightful place as plds raid mitigation- cuz divine veil is still a bit shoddy with no buffs in sight to that/clemency. :/

If they ever did that, they'd have to increase the physical defense on caster and healer gear because right now, casters and healers have the same problems with physical than DRGs had with magical, and we know that even with their superior HP pool, it was a disaster in the early days of FCoB.

I dunno how you other Pld's do it, but for me Sword Oath on openers where everyone is doing max deeps with cd's and pots Shield Swipe for me was what allowed me to only use Halone for the debuff so I could do more dps. I guess it will be tested but I fear not having Shield Swipe available whenever it procs (and now less potency) I fear I will have to Halone more in Sword and thus really I would consider it a dps loss. Great for Shield Oath, bleh for Sword Oath which is more important to be in AMAP IMO

Originally Posted by IskarJarak

I dunno how you other Pld's do it, but for me Sword Oath on openers where everyone is doing max deeps with cd's and pots Shield Swipe for me was what allowed me to only use Halone for the debuff so I could do more dps. I guess it will be tested but I fear not having Shield Swipe available whenever it procs (and now less potency) I fear I will have to Halone more in Sword and thus really I would consider it a dps loss. Great for Shield Oath, bleh for Sword Oath which is more important to be in AMAP IMO

In fact, it's the exact opposite that will happen. It's now off the global cooldown, so you'll be able to weave it in between your combos without delaying them, it's a flat out DPS and threat increase.

I also remember hearing some things about changes to our DPS moves to be based on VIT instead of STR since we're the only job that really needs both stats. Any idea what happened to this?

The rework of the damage calculation for tanks is planned for 3.2. The details are only speculation atm.

it didnt interrupt combos like 5ever. though i would want to see blocks resetting swipe cooldown.

He/They mean that it's one GCD in between your 3-steps combos, now since it's oGCD it's one more GCD for your actual combo.