Ifrits greatest weapon: Animation Lag

[Keftenk]

Just to note, I don't have any apparent visual lag running XIV. My computer runs the game just fine.

As for the quality of the video, I blame AE, I think I exported as a MPEG4, I was in a rush to get to work. Probably YouTubes compression killed quality some too.

[tachikoma]

If you have not attempted the Hard Mode Ifrit you should not be commenting in this thread. The issue with animation lock is when you start an action your player is locked to its current position for a set amount of time while the animation fires, for archers this makes it 100% impossible to effectively dodge the plumes and erruptions while keeping DPS up since every single action an archer takes puts you in animation lock.

The fight imo was designed with animation lock and the need to space out your attacks and time your abilities on purpose. The fight is actually quit easy if you learn his rotation and learn when you can DD and when you wait for AutoAttack to keep going(to keep you out of animation lock).

My shell is at 35 kills now and we did 1 of them with 7ppl as 1 dc'd on entering. It just takes practice and is almost reliant on everyone having sentinel.

[Kailok]

Agreed. This is the main reason my group has problems.

[Raikki]

It's petty to argue about what exactly the issue is, whether you think your 16-core triple-GPU computer with a dedicated OC-48 connection is immune from it or not. The fact is this problem doesn't happen in WoW, where this style of fight was popularized. There's no reason for it to have to happen in FF14. Also on top of lag issues and animation lock there's a separate issue involving the lava pool hitboxes. You can be outside the pool the entire time, thus not having to deal with lag at all, but still end up getting hit because the hitboxes aren't lining up quite right.

[MrLion]

But everyone can agree that the fight is fun right?

Yes?

ok...then no need for this thread.

[ViciousValentine]

But everyone can agree that the fight is fun right?

Yes?

ok...then no need for this thread.

The fight is fun...but is can be very painful due to server issues....there are very frustrating moments when you die because you need to heal the tank and become stuck in animation. I understand this makes the game harder but i doubt it is intended.

[tachikoma]

The fight is fun...but is can be very painful due to server issues....there are very frustrating moments when you die because you need to heal the tank and become stuck in animation. I understand this makes the game harder but i doubt it is intended.

I had this same mentality at first but there are lots of opportunities to heal w/o getting in trouble especially during dash phases.

[ViciousValentine]

I had this same mentality at first but there are lots of opportunities to heal w/o getting in trouble especially during dash phases.

Yes and I agree with you, its all about placement and timing of heals. But i still dont think the devs made the fight to be so particular. I mean never know but I still think the randomless of getting hit effects you every now and again. Overall the fight is very much doable, im just guessing its easier for the Japanese with smaller ping.

[tachikoma]

Most demanding group fight I've had since first dealing with Ultima from FFXI, this fight is exactly the type of encounter I hoped we'd see when ffxiv released.

A fight that forces you to constantly be on your toes, a fight where the boss moves around A LOT. A 5 phase fight with alternative strategies and ways to deal with his dmg. Arc doesn't take aoe but plume will rape you if your animation locked way outside his aoe range. This is not your avg tank and spank.

[Jinko]

It always makes me laugh how people try to defend the games clunky controls and lock out animations and say it adds to the difficulty, well duh.

Simple truth is they can't leave it as it is, especially if they want this game to be successful with the casual community.

Im sure Yoshi-p is aware of the situation and has plans in motion to solve this issue, its just guna take time.

that being said there is no getting away from the extra latency created by servers being on the other side of the world.