JP server player is calling us out. Step up, NA endgamers.

[Odett]

Winning by surviving a hard enrage would be a bit of a twist.

A hard enrage will kill you no matter what, but you can survive soft enrages sometimes. My first T4 clear in 2.0 was won a few seconds after the the elevator went haywire and started pumping out tons of forced damage. You could also look at the most popular way of doing T2, which also relies on the soft enrage.

[Whiteroom]

All games even before mmo had dps checks. Final fantasy and early legend of zelda had dps checks. so again please explain.

On top of his reply to this, why did you chose to ignore the "a lot more" part of his statement? That changes the meaning of it to something that makes the above response pointless.

[Kallera]

A hard enrage will kill you no matter what, but you can survive soft enrages sometimes. My first T4 clear in 2.0 was won a few seconds after the the elevator went haywire and started pumping out tons of forced damage. You could also look at the most popular way of doing T2, which also relies on the soft enrage.

I kinda just meant his reference to a bomb being a dps check, since you can also "win" by surviving the blast. Im more a fan of soft enrages anyway, done right it can raise the tension.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I don't count Bombs because you can just tank it easily. They're usually not instant death. Just like how a tank can survive Final Sting most of the time.

[Seryl199]

I don't count Bombs because you can just tank it easily. They're usually not instant death. Just like how a tank can survive Final Sting most of the time.

I was only nitpicking and arguing semantics anyways. Most bombs tend to be single target regardless, but it's an effect that happens when not enough damage is dealt in a timely fashion.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I always associate DPS checks as "You don't kill it fast enough? You die instead"

[Fevelle]

Anyway, since FF4 we had DPS checks. The problem isn't DPS check, it's DPS check based on healers + tanks DPS.

[Archaell]

Anyway, since FF4 we had DPS checks. The problem isn't DPS check, it's DPS check based on healers + tanks DPS.

Are dps checks based on tanks and healers tho?

In my opinion they are based on good dps and appropriate gear.

The rush to clear content as fast as possible combined with weekly lockouts and undergeared / less skilled (dps) players is forcing the tanks and healers to dps.

[Starbirth]

Are dps checks based on tanks and healers tho?

They are when tanks have access to dps accessories and a raid is missing a whole difficulty tier.

Yoshi said he wanted Alex to have 3 difficulties of easy, medium and savage but medium got scrapped due to staff problems. If medium was implemented the bridge to savage wouldn't be as difficult as it is.

[Odett]

Or we could also realize that tanks equip DPS accessories not only to meet DPS checks, but because it benefits their defense more than HP bloat. More STR also means better agro, and it allows tanks to use less enmity combos and focus more on self-sustain and utility combos. Inner Beast, Berserk, Bloodbath, Storm's Path, Souleater, Equilibrium, and Clemency are all defensive moves that scale from Strength, and a good tank with strength accessories can become more self-sustaining (requiring less heals from a healer) than a full Vit tank. Please don't stick pseudo-DPS tanks in the same wagon as tanks who mitigate through an aggressive playstyle.