JP server player is calling us out. Step up, NA endgamers.

[SakuraMidori]

You can get those jobs as an entry level worker? Nope. You need training before hand in the form of internships, apprenticeships, college education for those recruiters to even take a slight interest in you.



I did not call the game a job, it was a comparison. Try again.

I don't need to try again you don't need to use a job as a comparison they are nothing in the same one is about making cash in real life to eat and live one is sitting on your ass to have fun lol

[zosia]

I don't need to try again you don't need to use a job as a comparison they are nothing in the same one is about making cash in real life to eat and live one is sitting on your ass to have fun lol

It has everything to do with the context to which I replied.

Someone wanted to drag "grow up" into this thread because there are individuals who see people valuing their time and energy as immature.

You are taking my comparison out of context to make this argument of video games vs a irl job. My comparison was about growing up and irl vs in-game mentalities. If you want to argue about these mentalities I was eluding to, fine. If you want to keep on with this out of context point in a sorry attempt at "got cha," knock yourself out. Either way, I don't care, at all.

[Malevicton]

I don't need to try again you don't need to use a job as a comparison they are nothing in the same one is about making cash in real life to eat and live one is sitting on your ass to have fun lol

So where's the fun in wiping endlessly and dragging 7 others along with you? We aren't talking about dungeons here, this thread is about pugging savage. Using "fun" to defend intentionally bad play is one of the many problems NA has.

I'm not even gonna link the meme this time. I'm tired of linking that meme. I'm tired of a satire of the gaming community being reality.

[SakuraMidori]

So where's the fun in wiping endlessly and dragging 7 others along with you?.

Did i ever say you need to wipe endless times? if you really wipe that many times maybe look at your own skills and not everyone's around you :P when there is a wipe its mostly because ppl have no clue NA how to act or play as a team. Plan stuff out ask how many pulls ppl want ask if everyone know what to do and if some ppl don't let them know how to do the run. And if you say that's not your job then your not a team player your the prob and if there are players not trying or doing as they are told then yes they are the prob. 90% of my runs go well because i talk i make jokes and i try to enjoy myself. So far after reading what you said you may just be part of that big problem

[Malevicton]

Did i ever say you need to wipe endless times? if you really wipe that many times maybe look at your own skills and not everyone's around you :P when there is a wipe its mostly because ppl have no clue NA how to act or play as a team. Plan stuff out ask how many pulls ppl want ask if everyone know what to do and if some ppl don't let them know how to do the run. And if you say that's not your job then your not a team player your the prob and if there are players not trying or doing as they are told then yes they are the prob. 90% of my runs go well because i talk i make jokes and i try to enjoy myself. So far after reading what you said you may just be part of that big problem

To respond to the litany of personal attacks real quick: I do fine.

To the rest of your stuff: savage actually requires competency. You need to know your rotation and the strats to be competent, which is all the person was saying until you saw the word "work" and triggered. If you don't know your rotation or the strats, then you'll wipe, and drag everyone in your group with you. Since you're still saying stuff like "how many pulls you want" you don't seem to have grasped that we're talking about savage, not dungeons.

Here was one of your previous posts that started this cascade:

lol your not at a job none of this is work it's a game and what players do is all choice but never work thinking anything is work means your not having fun

The person you replied to had just said: "A lot of people just don't care / are lazy / think their special / etc to go through the work before wasting other people's time."

Work in that context meaning effort, but then you had to go and be the personification of http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png

[SakuraMidori]

The person you replied to had just said: "A lot of people just don't care / are lazy / think their special / etc to go through the work before wasting other people's time."

Work in that context meaning effort, but then you had to go and be the personification of

Lol what ever you say i'm not going to fight with you or get into it with you all i'm saying is a game is not work and saying a lot of ppl think they are special or are lazy is flat out rude but ok

[Malevicton]

Lol what ever you say i'm not going to fight with you or get into it with you all i'm saying is a game is not work and saying a lot of ppl think they are special or are lazy is flat out rude but ok

So if someone's lazy we should call them what? The line between blunt and rude is a fine one, but it exists; if you're being lazy or bad I'm not gonna feel bad for describing you accurately. Or do lazy people just not exist?

Again, this is a topic about savage. Not dungeons. I don't care if you wanna spam freeze in a dungeon. I'll roll my eyes and go on with my life. But if you try that in savage you're wasting everyone's time, including your own.

[SakuraMidori]

So if someone's lazy we should call them what? The line between blunt and rude is a fine one, but it exists; if you're being lazy or bad I'm not gonna feel bad for describing you accurately. Or do lazy people just not exist?

Again, this is a topic about savage. Not dungeons. I don't care if you wanna spam freeze in a dungeon. I'll roll my eyes and go on with my life. But if you try that in savage you're wasting everyone's time, including your own.

MMhmmm yep i agree since you know a fail in savage can be the end of the world or you know a lil wasted time is something that can kill ppl in real life. Do lazy ppl exist yep sir they sure do but calling someone lazy will not help you in game or in real life and you know ppl don't respond well to it but as said i'm not going to get into all that

[Shalan]

Lol what ever you say i'm not going to fight with you or get into it with you all i'm saying is a game is not work and saying a lot of ppl think they are special or are lazy is flat out rude but ok

Reminder: Work != Job
Work is effort, either physical or intellectual, put towards a task or goal in order to achieve said task or goal.

Learning rotations, mechanics, and how to properly play your class is technically work in a sense. One who refuses to do so and expects to be carried is lazy and should not be carried or assisted unless they put forth the effort (work) to improve themselves in end-tier gameplay.

[Velox]

Reminder: Work != Job
Work is effort, either physical or intellectual, put towards a task or goal in order to achieve said task or goal.

Technically, Work is a force applied over the distance an object moves, as defined by the equation W = Fd, where F is in Newtons and d is in meters. It's the 90% of the general population that is ignorant to what true work is :P